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Old 07-04-20, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
Not in my experience. At least not unless the heavy person is on REALLY crappy wheels. Downhills are all about weight and aero.
True. I'm a fat guy with good hubs. I pass a lot of skinny people on downhills.
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm
Hub drag is nearly irrelevant in real life. At any speed over 12mph, air drag is the dominant force ******ing the cyclist. The lower air drag of a 23mm tire vs a 32mm or more section clincher is real. The better aero position of being on the drops, even on the hoods vs. being sat upright ... ...
Don't overlook hub drag, though. One of my bikes coasts down the same hills a lot faster than the others, and they're all set up exactly the same, so there should be no aero difference. The fast one has Dura Ace hubs. Second fastest has Chorus. Slowest has Fulcrum.
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Originally Posted by badger1
Pffft. What you (op) are noticing is the difference between a $500 and a $5000 bike. That, and clipless 'peddles' (sic) vs. flat 'peddles'.

Oh, and 'Drop Bars' vs. 'Flat Bars' ... that too.

These are all important considerations.
Drop bars are an illusion to most.
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This thread reminds me of an old tale:

Who’s going faster? The fat guy at 20mph or the skinny guy at 20mph?
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
Not in my experience. At least not unless the heavy person is on REALLY crappy wheels. Downhills are all about weight and aero.
And at some point, probably around 45mph or so, aero starts to dominate even over significantly more weight.

I can verify this with an experiment I did:
Run 1: Recumbent bike, pedal to about 48 mph, then coast down. Top speed achieved: 54 mph, sustained for about 10-12 seconds.
Run 2: CBR66RR sportbike (~400 lbs) start run at top of the hill ~50 mph, pull in clutch and coast. Top speed achieved: also 54 mph sustained almost the same time.
Run 3: Strada Carbon Velomobile (~80 lbs) pedal to about 48 mph. Top speed: 68 mph, sustained for about 8-10 seconds. Coasted MUCH further even after it started to flatten out than the others.
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Old 07-06-20, 03:37 PM
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They dont always. My son and I went for a ride a couple days ago. He rode his skinny wheeled racing bike. I was riding my RANS Stratus LE. Every time we coasted down hill I would easily out coast him.
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
When you are in the drops on a road bike you are always going down hill regardless of the actual terrain.

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And on my trike with 20" front wheels, and its 26" rear tire, I too am always going down hill.
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Lower rolling resistance from more supple slick tires and better aerodynamics.

Down hill sectional density of the rider is significant. Heavier ones are faster.
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
Down hill sectional density of the rider is significant. Heavier ones are faster.
Density matters - the very heavy, very skinny guys usually win @ downhill.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Drop bars are an illusion to most.
Be careful not to reach for them, lest your hands pass thru the illusion and you will tumble forward and crash!

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Downhill terminal velocity in a freewheeling descent will be roughly proportional to the square root of M/A, the ratio of combined mass over combined frontal area of cyclist and rider. That generally favors larger cyclists.

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In actual test a couple of surprising results came out . A wider supple tire out coasted a narrow hard tire. A 20" tire out coasted and 26" tire.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Density matters - the very heavy, very skinny guys usually win @ downhill.
So take calcium supplements and iron supplements, and wear a real gold watch.
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