Carrying a jacket
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Yeah. My ex periodically tells me about their sales. I try not to give out even my junk email address. Still trying to score a wine colored one. They seem to sell out quickly during a sale.
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I have a huge seat bag because I also find it necessary to start overdressed and then strip layers. I also have a couple stretch-straps (bungees or used inner tubes) around the bag so I can secure other layers there if it is full. The key word is "secure"---as others have noted, you don't want to lose something while riding, particularly if it is likely ten end up ending your ride as it falls.
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I was riding alongside a friend who had her jacket tied around her waist. It got sucked into the rear wheel and locked it up. She skidded to a stop without crashing. A guy I know was mountain biking and had his sweatshirt tied on the bars. It got into the front wheel and he went over the bars at speed and got hurt pretty bad.
Tying clothing to the bike is a bad idea.
Tying clothing to the bike is a bad idea.
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When I have the OP's problem. I remove the jacket. Hold the sleeves outstretched by cuffs and roll it up from the bottom of the torso. Done properly this leaves a 6 foot jacket tube with the torso on the inside of the roll I then drape the center over the stem and bring the jacket arms forward and up in front of the handlebars. Then bring the arms back towards yourself and back down under the stem and tie the arms together in a square knot. If too much arm remains for safe travel due to the proximity to the front wheel, cross the arms under the stem and tie the square knot above the stem instead.
Easy.
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...are small panniers and a rack just not fashionable any more ? That would be n keeping with everything else I use.
...are small panniers and a rack just not fashionable any more ? That would be n keeping with everything else I use.
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Those sure are tempting for me. I have a tough time without trying on tho as I am a hard fit. 5'9" and thicker in the body and arms and forearms well let's just say bigger boned then cycling clothing is designed for...I tried a xxl PI thermal jersey that was on sale at REI and it was skin tight. man I need to lose weight.
I use PI shorts in XXL and they fit but they vary. I can buy 2 pair at the same time and they will fit differently. I tried a XXL short from Neo Pro and they were so small I couldn't even get them on. I tried but it felt like they were going to rip.
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For carrying something like a rolled-up jacket on my frame, I really like the Apex strap from Occam Designs. It works very well... easy to use, secure, and versatile.
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For 2-3 hour rides, the variation in temperature around here (i.e. not in the desert) is not so extreme that you can't just stuff your wind barrier in your jersey pocket once it warms up. For me, that's been enough.
For all-day rides, as others have suggested a Camelback or equivalent can work. Or, a trunk bag. I don't have any experience with frame or handlebar bags, I've always gone with one of the two I mentioned. I like the trunk bag a bit better, as the load is off my back. But, if I'm riding a bike without a rear rack, I've had good results with a Camelback. Just remember to wear it under your outer layer, both to make it possible to remove your outer layer without stopping, and to help prevent a frozen sipping tube (although blowing the drink back into the reservoir works pretty well on all but the very coldest rides).
For all-day rides, as others have suggested a Camelback or equivalent can work. Or, a trunk bag. I don't have any experience with frame or handlebar bags, I've always gone with one of the two I mentioned. I like the trunk bag a bit better, as the load is off my back. But, if I'm riding a bike without a rear rack, I've had good results with a Camelback. Just remember to wear it under your outer layer, both to make it possible to remove your outer layer without stopping, and to help prevent a frozen sipping tube (although blowing the drink back into the reservoir works pretty well on all but the very coldest rides).
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For 2-3 hour rides, the variation in temperature around here (i.e. not in the desert) is not so extreme that you can't just stuff your wind barrier in your jersey pocket once it warms up. For me, that's been enough.
For all-day rides, as others have suggested a Camelback or equivalent can work. Or, a trunk bag. I don't have any experience with frame or handlebar bags, I've always gone with one of the two I mentioned. I like the trunk bag a bit better, as the load is off my back. But, if I'm riding a bike without a rear rack, I've had good results with a Camelback. Just remember to wear it under your outer layer, both to make it possible to remove your outer layer without stopping, and to help prevent a frozen sipping tube (although blowing the drink back into the reservoir works pretty well on all but the very coldest rides).
For all-day rides, as others have suggested a Camelback or equivalent can work. Or, a trunk bag. I don't have any experience with frame or handlebar bags, I've always gone with one of the two I mentioned. I like the trunk bag a bit better, as the load is off my back. But, if I'm riding a bike without a rear rack, I've had good results with a Camelback. Just remember to wear it under your outer layer, both to make it possible to remove your outer layer without stopping, and to help prevent a frozen sipping tube (although blowing the drink back into the reservoir works pretty well on all but the very coldest rides).
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When I lived in northern Utah or Colorado, sure.
When I’ve lived in Texas, Louisiana, or Arizona, not so much. Especially after decades of living southerly, I’m not nearly has hardy to the cold temps as I used to be. It was 40 this morning, then about 50 degrees when I meant to ride later in the morning. Noped out of that and did stuff in the house.
60 degrees and a chill wind when I started later in the day (early afternoon) - jersey and sun sleeves weren’t enough. Stopped and put on the wind jacket. When I hit the top of the short canyon climb, I was warmed up enough to stuff it back in the jersey pocket. I was paused to suck down a gu packet anyway. That was 10 miles into my ride before I was warm enough to drop the shell, though.
Usually, I try to start off chilled, and expect to be warmed by activity in the first two miles or so. If not, I’ll add a layer, like I did today.
When I’ve lived in Texas, Louisiana, or Arizona, not so much. Especially after decades of living southerly, I’m not nearly has hardy to the cold temps as I used to be. It was 40 this morning, then about 50 degrees when I meant to ride later in the morning. Noped out of that and did stuff in the house.
60 degrees and a chill wind when I started later in the day (early afternoon) - jersey and sun sleeves weren’t enough. Stopped and put on the wind jacket. When I hit the top of the short canyon climb, I was warmed up enough to stuff it back in the jersey pocket. I was paused to suck down a gu packet anyway. That was 10 miles into my ride before I was warm enough to drop the shell, though.
Usually, I try to start off chilled, and expect to be warmed by activity in the first two miles or so. If not, I’ll add a layer, like I did today.
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My mom doesn't let me go out on my bike when it is that chilly outside.
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But now that she is dead, I can put my bright yellow Pearl Izumi windbreaker in this:
Currently on sale for Thanksgiving: https://lonepeakpacks.com/product/pf...andlebar-pack/
It is lighter than the more formidable version I have on my touring bike.
Currently on sale for Thanksgiving: https://lonepeakpacks.com/product/pf...andlebar-pack/
It is lighter than the more formidable version I have on my touring bike.
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But now that she is dead, I can put my bright yellow Pearl Izumi windbreaker in this:
Currently on sale for Thanksgiving: https://lonepeakpacks.com/product/pf...andlebar-pack/
It is lighter than the more formidable version I have on my touring bike.
Currently on sale for Thanksgiving: https://lonepeakpacks.com/product/pf...andlebar-pack/
It is lighter than the more formidable version I have on my touring bike.
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I've got a bunch as well. I think my first pair of Panniers are 25 years old or more. I like them better than Ortlieb.
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I make use of bicycling jackets that have a special layer in the front only to block the wind and that have removable sleeves. When it heats up I can partially open the jacket in the front to allow more wind to come through, and I can also remove the sleeves and stuff them inside the pockets of the jacket.
A big advantage of bicycling becoming a mass market is the availability of special jackets such as these from multiple companies.
A big advantage of bicycling becoming a mass market is the availability of special jackets such as these from multiple companies.
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Yeah, I used to use a similar wind jacket all the time. That got me into trouble on one ride, when I was climbing White Mountain.
The ride started out partly cloudy, with just a few sprinkles. It got progressively wetter and colder as I climbed. The last few miles were cold rain, wind, and lightning, and I was drenched and shivering while climbing as fast as I could, while worried that I was going to get hit by lightning.
I was much too cold to descend, but two guys in an SUV graciously drove me back down.
After that experience, I switched to carrying a more waterproof jacket. It definitely has kept me warmer on chilly descents.
Lick Observatory on showery day in March, Showers Pass Pro Tech jacket
The ride started out partly cloudy, with just a few sprinkles. It got progressively wetter and colder as I climbed. The last few miles were cold rain, wind, and lightning, and I was drenched and shivering while climbing as fast as I could, while worried that I was going to get hit by lightning.
I was much too cold to descend, but two guys in an SUV graciously drove me back down.
After that experience, I switched to carrying a more waterproof jacket. It definitely has kept me warmer on chilly descents.
Lick Observatory on showery day in March, Showers Pass Pro Tech jacket
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Not many newspapers lying around these days, but there are US mail advertising inserts. There's a post office with P.O. boxes at the top of Mt. Hamilton. People retrieve their mail and toss the advertising inserts in the nearby trash can. I sometimes can find one in the trash for the descent. It takes the chill off.
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Not many newspapers lying around these days, but there are US mail advertising inserts. There's a post office with P.O. boxes at the top of Mt. Hamilton. People retrieve their mail and toss the advertising inserts in the nearby trash can. I sometimes can find one in the trash for the descent. It takes the chill off.
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