Best hitch carrier for carbon frames
09-14-20, 09:10 PM
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09-14-20, 09:15 PM
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Insurance companies estimated that a driver files for an accident claim once every 18 years.
And based on your stat, in that incident each 18 years, there is a 29% chance it's a rear end collision. So basically, a driver should expect to be rear ended once in their lifetime, based on stats.
And then you have to consider how rare it is to carry a bike in/on the car. That accounts for what, like 1% of a cyclists drive time each year?
So out of all the miles of driving in a lifetime, we should expect to be rear ended once. And you are concerned that a bike will be damaged when that happens?
Like i said further up thread, I don't base my life decisions(like whether to put a bike in the car or use a rack) on odds that are so low I most likely won't experience the event.
You aren't doing well here. Stop digging the hole.
Insurance companies estimated that a driver files for an accident claim once every 18 years.
And based on your stat, in that incident each 18 years, there is a 29% chance it's a rear end collision. So basically, a driver should expect to be rear ended once in their lifetime, based on stats.
And then you have to consider how rare it is to carry a bike in/on the car. That accounts for what, like 1% of a cyclists drive time each year?
So out of all the miles of driving in a lifetime, we should expect to be rear ended once. And you are concerned that a bike will be damaged when that happens?
Like i said further up thread, I don't base my life decisions(like whether to put a bike in the car or use a rack) on odds that are so low I most likely won't experience the event.
You aren't doing well here. Stop digging the hole.
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09-14-20, 09:39 PM
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Ha very true. I thought about bringing this up in thst post, but figured it might complicate things too much. As it is, it seems to have not been understood.
09-14-20, 11:20 PM
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Wife and I used a Kuat NV 2.0 two-bike rack for the first time this past weekend and it worked well.
Bikes mounted easily and securely enough. The rack wasn't cheap but it definitely worked.
Bikes mounted easily and securely enough. The rack wasn't cheap but it definitely worked.
09-15-20, 06:33 AM
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My wife has a Kuat rack on her car. It is very convenient for hauling bikes - it's not uncommon for us to have 1-2 bikes in her car and another 2 on the rear rack. We put fork mounts inside, and her bikes are small enough that they can go in standing up. My bikes are too tall to go in like that.
I drive a small, two-door coupe. I have to use a roof rack if I want to carry more than one bike. It's fine, but annoying, and things can fly up and hit the bikes. True story - bird crashed into one of my bikes while I drove. The bird died; the bike was not damaged.
If I want to put the bike in my car, I can fold down the rear seat. But as I have long legs, it's a very tight fit to get my road bike in there, unless I remove both wheels. I cannot fit my track bike in the car with a rear wheel on - the BB is too high. Instead, I take the wheels off, put on a chain keeper and wiggle it into the very small back seat. Wheels and gear go in the trunk.
I drive a small, two-door coupe. I have to use a roof rack if I want to carry more than one bike. It's fine, but annoying, and things can fly up and hit the bikes. True story - bird crashed into one of my bikes while I drove. The bird died; the bike was not damaged.
If I want to put the bike in my car, I can fold down the rear seat. But as I have long legs, it's a very tight fit to get my road bike in there, unless I remove both wheels. I cannot fit my track bike in the car with a rear wheel on - the BB is too high. Instead, I take the wheels off, put on a chain keeper and wiggle it into the very small back seat. Wheels and gear go in the trunk.
09-15-20, 07:34 AM
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Much more secure than having your bike slide around on the inside. Also with a shoulder injury, it’s a PITA taking your front wheel off every time and getting the bike in and out of the car making sure it is situated just right, and if you are trying to put more than one inside (you mentioned “bikes”) it’s even a bigger PITA, and you will have bikes laying on top of each other. Not a good way to carry them at all, because you will have to pile them in there without any of your derailleurs hitting anything.
09-15-20, 08:29 AM
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That's it for me. Putting the bikes inside creates more risk of bike damage as well as damage to the car's interior and potentially exterior from scratches, snags, and stains. The cost of repairing or replacing a bike is a whole lot less than repairing a car in most cases.
09-15-20, 10:32 AM
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I have one of those Thule hitch racks / trailers for 3+1 bikes, works great and fees like a very solid piece of kit, although takes a bit to install and put away and is a bit on the heavy side. Great for long trips and no issues at all with CF frames.
If lifting heavy things is an issue due to injury, maybe one of the smaller models would be easier to handle.
If lifting heavy things is an issue due to injury, maybe one of the smaller models would be easier to handle.
09-15-20, 10:38 AM
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I have one of those Thule hitch racks / trailers for 3+1 bikes, works great and fees like a very solid piece of kit, although takes a bit to install and put away and is a bit on the heavy side. Great for long trips and no issues at all with CF frames.
If lifting heavy things is an issue due to injury, maybe one of the smaller models would be easier to handle.
If lifting heavy things is an issue due to injury, maybe one of the smaller models would be easier to handle.
09-15-20, 10:51 AM
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But, they don't always swing away easily. Depends on the car. On my Jeep, the spare hits the hinge of my Kuat Transfer 2. I'm only able to open the rear door about 12" when the rack is on. I can get the helmets through the opening, but it makes it difficult to get the groceries. So, depending on the type of car, it's something to think about.
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09-15-20, 11:58 AM
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But, they don't always swing away easily. Depends on the car. On my Jeep, the spare hits the hinge of my Kuat Transfer 2. I'm only able to open the rear door about 12" when the rack is on. I can get the helmets through the opening, but it makes it difficult to get the groceries. So, depending on the type of car, it's something to think about.
09-15-20, 12:32 PM
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It's not a big deal or deal killer to me as it's not my only car.
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09-15-20, 12:59 PM
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Even BEFORE shoulder replacement, IN CAR = OUT OF WEATHER, NO BIRD POOP and AWAY FROM REAR END IMPACT
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09-15-20, 02:16 PM
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Was your bike in the car at the time? Who cares by the way insurance would cover the replacement either your home policy or vehicle insurance. You are drowning on this one that's for sure but I admire your tenacity.
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But when the insurance agent came to deliver the check I met him in the garage and he saw the bike. He said he was glad it wasn't inside because insurance companies think $2000 is a lot for a bicycle. I reminded him of the email exchange we had when I purchased the bike asking if I needed an additional rider on my home owners and he said no.
And a full payment would not replace the bike since I got a significant discount at the time and Trek "updated" the frame and doesn't offer the same paint. I'm very happy with it.
Do whatever you like, but I do leave a few extra car length when following a vehicle with a rack or anything that partially blocks the tail lights.
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When it's just me going to a race or something I just put the bike in the van on the passanger seats, anyway : it's quicker and that way it's locked up if I need to make a cafe stop (although the Thule does have options for locking the bikes using the clamps, but I prefer not clamping CF frames that hard) .
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I have the extender - need it to clear the oversize spare because the hitch insert is not long enough without it. Still prevents opening the gate. If it was the typical hatch, I don't think it would interfere.
It's not a big deal or deal killer to me as it's not my only car.
It's not a big deal or deal killer to me as it's not my only car.
Doesn't work on my van and it makes it too long for normal parking spots (it's about as long as is practical already), interferes with the rear view parking camera and the parking sensors which are all very convenient.
When it's just me going to a race or something I just put the bike in the van on the passanger seats, anyway : it's quicker and that way it's locked up if I need to make a cafe stop (although the Thule does have options for locking the bikes using the clamps, but I prefer not clamping CF frames that hard) .
When it's just me going to a race or something I just put the bike in the van on the passanger seats, anyway : it's quicker and that way it's locked up if I need to make a cafe stop (although the Thule does have options for locking the bikes using the clamps, but I prefer not clamping CF frames that hard) .
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Banned for life from the inter forums, Koyote. 
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Wow, look how badly this rack covers up the license plate and tail lights!
Not my car, but I have the same rack and similar Outback.
Not my car, but I have the same rack and similar Outback.
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09-16-20, 06:39 AM
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Just make the SAG wagon guy mount the bike on HIS roof!
There, problem solved!
There, problem solved!
09-16-20, 06:52 AM
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I find it a funny that people ride their bikes outside on the road all the time, exposing them to rain, bugs, dirt, and mud.
Yet as soon as the ride is over, these same bike must be protected from the outside elements on the way home.
Bikes are actually designed to be exposed to the outside elements and dirt. The interior of most cars is not.
Yet as soon as the ride is over, these same bike must be protected from the outside elements on the way home.
Bikes are actually designed to be exposed to the outside elements and dirt. The interior of most cars is not.
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