merziac

We had a recent MKS thread that got me motivated to overhaul several sets that were languishing.

3 of the sets were MKS so they got shown there.

Bring on whatever ya got.

So here's these for this,

Way Assauto from the 58 Paramount

AustinFitz

These MKS Esprits have been my favorite pedals for a while now. I use them on my '84 Centurion Elite GT.

The Golden Boy 

It looks like they're not making either of these any more- White Industries pedals and King Cage toe clips.

WIPedals2 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

WIPedals3 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

WIPedals4 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

WIPedals5 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr

merziac

We've all seen hundreds of these but they were NOS, shiney, chrome, drop dead gorgeous, perfect for this to me.

Biketiger

Merziac - have you ever tried clipless pedals like Shimano SPD? It's so strange to see old school cages with carbon cranks. Don't get me wrong - there's nothing wrong with either. I just don't seem them together especially with road cranks and a drivetrain designed for power and speed. I use SPD on my track bikes too - the increase in efficiency is essential to maintain high rpms.

ShannonM

Well, I'm not going to question your choice of pedals, but I am going to question your buckling down of your toe straps. Why you do dis?

IMNVHO, the only time this should be done is when the toe strap is being used to secure non-foot things to non-pedal parts of the bicycle. For toe straps being used to secure feet to pedals, leave them free. Better yet, use toe strap buttons, which makes tightening them down, when you want to do that, much easier.

As far as efficiency goes, no study of which I am aware has ever shown a difference between any cycling shoe / cleat / clipless pedal configuration and any cycling shoe / cleat / toe clip / strap / pedal configuration, which is the only fair comparison. The reasons clipless pedals took over so quickly were: (1) Full retention without having to tighten your straps and occasionally getting tingly toes and (2) hands-free release at stop lights. Emergency releases didn't really enter into it... if you were gonna crash, you were gonna crash, and your feet were gonna do what they were gonna do, and it didn't really matter which setup you used.

--Shannon

merziac

So several things in play here.

Pedals, clips and straps for oldschool cool, chrome, total contrast of new, old, etc.

Have a crooked ankle that won't do clipless AND can't stand the look of them, ever, period, you get the idea.

No power or speed coming from me, never raced, nothing for hills but I can ride all day if I pace myself (slowly).

I would encourage you to go here for the build and a lot more context.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ou-decide.html

merziac

See the response to the post above yours, mostly all for looks, vibe and style.

Don't cinch em down, they are just right to corral my feet for the way I ride, no cleats just something with enough traction to stay put for my meager output.

See here too.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ou-decide.html

ShannonM

That makes sense... you've got 'em right where you want 'em, and you like the way they look buckled up.

I withdraw my objection. In this case, and only this case, the full buckling of toe straps is not wrong.

(Also, your Strawberry is too rad of a bike to be subjected to such petty criticism by such petty peanut-throwers as myself.)

--Shannon

merziac

Tx, no worries, you can see where I was going, spent way too much time, effort, energy and of course $$$$$ getting where I wanted but here I am, almost exactly where I wanted.

And yes, plenty of it was to get ?'s just like the ones you asked.

All good

merziac

And now for the next installment, which we have also seen many of.

These are in pretty good shape and have been changed to French spindles for a PX-10 that had all the crank related threads hammered which were chased and reworked back to zero.

JohnDThompson 

Dura Ace PD7400
Zeus 2000
SunTour Superbe Pro
Lyotard mod. 23 "Marcel Berthet"

JaccoW

Well these are impossible to remove so far so I hope I can get them off eventually and install some new ones WITH GREASE this time.


I enjoy the modern reissue MKS BM-7 NEXT models with triple sealed bearings on my commuter:


And the QR MKS Urban Platform Ey Superior on my rando bike. But you need to use them with (half)clips for the best results:

merziac

And some Atom 700's, the chrome was/is in bad shape, took it to the wire wheel after screwing around and not making enough progress.

merziac

^^^ odd thing with these to me is short threads for steel crank that are 9/16x20.

branko_76 

Raleigh branded pedals from a 1974 Grand Prix. One of the cages was wacked into a paralleogram from a crash I guess. A vise and hard plastic mallet worked great for squaring it up.

Biketiger

I'm not sure if any studies are actually necessary but if there's any question about which is more efficient and provides greater power transfer, could you name a single pro road rider in the last 30 years who uses toe clips? Here is a quote from a 2009 interview with Eddy Merckx in nyvelocity.com:
What products have recently been introduced that excite you and what do you see on the horizon that will change the way people ride?
"Over the years the shift from toeclips to clipless pedals and the integrated shifting solutions of different brands are the 2 major ideas that changed the way people ride in a very spectacular way. For now I don’t see another product or concept having such a great impact."
I own 9 bikes, 6 have Shimano SPD, 2 have cages, 1 has neither. I can tell you without a doubt that it's a lot easier to get your foot off a clipless pedal than it is trying to extricate it from inside a cage. Also, since your comparison includes cycling shoes, I do not recommend using cages with nice, expensive cycling shoes: the metal cages will quickly chew up the leather.

merziac

Ok, you realize this thread is simply about pedals, mainly oldschool with clips purely for aesthetics.

As I said, I have a crooked ankle that will not tolerate clipless which doesn't mater since I can't stand the look and would not use them if I could, especially on C+V.

I don't ride that hard and don't care anyway, what clipless lack in elegance they more than make up for in efficiency, no one should dispute that.

My clips and straps are set to simply cradle my foot in the proper position, no cleats, not cinched down, just riding along with simple shoes that slip in and out without much thought.

So, what pedals are you running on the 2 with clips?

merziac

Looks great, good job, get those bodies polished up the best you can and get em back together.

So no road rash?

branko_76 

Same here,

I've been using toe-clips and straps since I got my first Raleigh Grand Prix in 1976. I can ride to work wearing my work boots or anywhere else in street shoes.

Road Fan

I have used clip/strap since my high school days, never desiring to bind my feet to the pedals. Therefore my feet never feel trapped, even now at a much older age. I see a lot of younger people have anxiety about caught feet/falling over with clip/strap. I feel the same anxiety with my feet bound into clip bindings. I have no experience with skiing and no acclimation to the foot extraction motion for clipless pedals.

I notice Merclx's argument is that pedal bindings have changed cycling, not that they are more efficient in terms of measurable power transfer or measurable reduction in loss of power. In dozens of years of this debate, I have never seen good data that clearly shows that binding pedals are more efficient than clip/strap/cleat, clip/strap/floating cleat, or clip/strap/no cleat. For those whom are familiar with riding the technology, there may be a foot extraction safety advantage, but that doesn't (IMHO) apply to all riders.

BFisher

Ofmega track pedals came stock on a NIB '89 Puch Mistral Leader:



Raleigh 501 from a '73 Super Course:

merziac

BFisher

Those Ofmega's look a lot like Suntour.

Drillium Dude 

Barelli Supremes with stainless steel platforms. Although they supposedly have questionable reliability, so far I've had no issues. The best thing is that a quick polish with 000 brass or steel wool cleans up the platforms like new; I have these on my Medici and they're perfect for riding with street shoes.





DD

merziac

^^^^^ Absolutely beautiful, that's what I'm talking about, top of the line, rare AF.