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05-25-16, 10:06 AM
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Kiss your allergies goodbye? In this climate? Who was drinking their bathwater?
05-25-16, 10:08 AM
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Well he wasn't happy with the whimpering image he left the first time he departed, so he came back solely to try to leave a badass image that he had always sought to make around here anyway. Either way, he didn't change the idiot image at all.
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05-25-16, 10:08 AM
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Believe me, I understand your thought process. The problem is that the salary you claimed you are currently at is deceptive at best. In the work world these days most prospective companies do not call previous employers for references. However, a prospective company will contact past employers to verify employment and salary and that's about it. There may be a bit of a discussion about what your job duties were/are. There will not be a discussion of how well you performed your tasks, your relationship with co-workers, your relationship with outside job related contacts, your ability to show up to work on time, or how many times you came back from lunch drunk. Those discussions open you a whole spaghetti bowl of potential litigation.
The discussion would go something like this:
Good afternoon Mr. Transistor, this is Mr. rpenmanparker and I am the HR director at Specialized. I'm calling to verify employment of Mr. topslop1.
Good afternoon Mr. rpenmparker, how may I help you.
Mr. topslop1 is applying for a sales position here at Cannondale. His resume indicates that he started at Specialized in May 2012 and is still currently employed there. Is that correct?
Yes Mr. rpenmanparker, that is correct.
During the interview, Mr. topslop1 indicated that his salary is $58k, is that about right?
No Mr. rpenmanparker, that's about 10% too high.
Okay Mr. Transistor, thank you for your time, have a great day.
Thank you Mr. rpenmanparker, you have a great day as well.
Mr. BillyD, this is Mr. repenmanparker from HR. I'm calling about that candidate for the sales position you have open. Remember Mr. topslop1?
Yes...
I just called Specialized and they verified that his employment dates are correct, but, they indicated that the salary he told us he was making is about 10% too high.
Okay, scratch that one off the list.
The discussion would go something like this:
Good afternoon Mr. Transistor, this is Mr. rpenmanparker and I am the HR director at Specialized. I'm calling to verify employment of Mr. topslop1.
Good afternoon Mr. rpenmparker, how may I help you.
Mr. topslop1 is applying for a sales position here at Cannondale. His resume indicates that he started at Specialized in May 2012 and is still currently employed there. Is that correct?
Yes Mr. rpenmanparker, that is correct.
During the interview, Mr. topslop1 indicated that his salary is $58k, is that about right?
No Mr. rpenmanparker, that's about 10% too high.
Okay Mr. Transistor, thank you for your time, have a great day.
Thank you Mr. rpenmanparker, you have a great day as well.
Mr. BillyD, this is Mr. repenmanparker from HR. I'm calling about that candidate for the sales position you have open. Remember Mr. topslop1?
Yes...
I just called Specialized and they verified that his employment dates are correct, but, they indicated that the salary he told us he was making is about 10% too high.
Okay, scratch that one off the list.
05-25-16, 10:11 AM
#3830
Vain, But Lacking Talent
So now I'm looking at 100+ bucks for new tires and tubes on the Crockett just so I can do a 100K route that costs 45 dollars to attend.
I think I might do one more gravel ride on my current tires and really push the limits on the PSI. I want to do the event and I really don't like the way the tires ride, but I don't want to spend another chunk of change for a set of tires that will not see a whole lot of use throughout the year.
I think I might do one more gravel ride on my current tires and really push the limits on the PSI. I want to do the event and I really don't like the way the tires ride, but I don't want to spend another chunk of change for a set of tires that will not see a whole lot of use throughout the year.
05-25-16, 10:12 AM
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Unless things have changed or I'm just talking out of my ass, I don't think that employers are allowed to comment on anything other than confirming employment. I'm sure that it occasionally happens, 'specially with smaller employers, but it's supposed to be verboten (since it's colorful word day in Addiction).
05-25-16, 10:12 AM
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I thought all of us cyclists spend too much money without the need for encouragement or permission?
05-25-16, 10:13 AM
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Didn't think that their offer would have been so low - I was thinking a swing from $50-60 and then my push of a slightly inflated 58 would've tailored a slightly better initial response on their end.
I did hear 'you'll eclipse 58/yr here' from the folk on the other side of the table, but I don't believe much from anyone.. I know that someone there as an insider (who has been there for 3-4 years) is currently @ $85k and on the initial $40k/yr salary.
I'm in a stupid position where I have til June to re-sign on my lease here for another year, which I refuse to do. Working at my current place of employment for another year in my opinion would be a mistake.
If I can get this thing to cut even at $52-60k and I have reduced spending for housing that is a net gain towards student loan repayment, although it isn't a 'step forward' from a career point.
Thinking my best course of action is try to push, take the 'break even or slightly more after commission' salary, use home-base as unsigned/uncommitted housing, and continue to work on project management jobs in an actual target area that I'd like (Texas).
This skills vs. job market bit just kinda sucks right now I think.. I'm still too early career, bah humbug.
I did hear 'you'll eclipse 58/yr here' from the folk on the other side of the table, but I don't believe much from anyone.. I know that someone there as an insider (who has been there for 3-4 years) is currently @ $85k and on the initial $40k/yr salary.
I'm in a stupid position where I have til June to re-sign on my lease here for another year, which I refuse to do. Working at my current place of employment for another year in my opinion would be a mistake.
If I can get this thing to cut even at $52-60k and I have reduced spending for housing that is a net gain towards student loan repayment, although it isn't a 'step forward' from a career point.
Thinking my best course of action is try to push, take the 'break even or slightly more after commission' salary, use home-base as unsigned/uncommitted housing, and continue to work on project management jobs in an actual target area that I'd like (Texas).
This skills vs. job market bit just kinda sucks right now I think.. I'm still too early career, bah humbug.
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05-25-16, 10:15 AM
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In the words of Lewis Black - "Sad, but ****ing true."
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05-25-16, 10:17 AM
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That's true. You can all rest assured that I am equally sarcastic in my day to day existence. My wife used to think it was endearing ;-(
05-25-16, 10:19 AM
#3838
Vain, But Lacking Talent
The weird thing to me is why are tubes so dang expensive? If I went to Dallas, I could get my cost+10 hookup, but the gas money pretty much negates any cost savings, not to mention the time to drive out there.
05-25-16, 10:20 AM
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Yeah, you should really buy that/those _______! That's a good deal that you don't want to miss out on and you'll definitely get your money out of it/them.
05-25-16, 10:23 AM
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Unless things have changed or I'm just talking out of my ass, I don't think that employers are allowed to comment on anything other than confirming employment. I'm sure that it occasionally happens, 'specially with smaller employers, but it's supposed to be verboten (since it's colorful word day in Addiction).
05-25-16, 10:23 AM
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The CAAD 10 developed that annoying clicking again last night. Mrs. Doug28450 and Clown 2 went for a ride. During the ride ride it started again, so, Mrs. Doug28450 dropped the bike off at the bike doctor this morning.
05-25-16, 10:24 AM
#3842
Casually Deliberate
I don't think I've said this to anyone before and maybe I'm out of line saying it now, seeing as how I'm not someone who rides a road bike, but I don't think you fit in here very well. For one thing, you don't seem like a very nice person. I'm not saying everyone has to be but from what I've seen over the several years I've been here, the majority of the Addictionites are. And what the hell, man? You lie to a possible employer about something they can fairly easily check and if not about you personally then about people with your education and experience. You encourage the apparently easily-led Robert along the garden path that gets this thread shut down for the first time in the history of ever. I'm sure there will be other examples down the line but that's enough to be going forward with. I will try to ignore your posts as much as possible but, since this is probably a "me" issue rather than a "you" issue, eventually I may just bail and head off to the women's forum or the over 50s where I belong.
05-25-16, 10:34 AM
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I say get the tires. Unless they were seriously broke, I've never heard anyone say "Damn. I wish I hadn't bought those tires/that sweater/that lipstick/those pedals". I have, however heard plenty of complaining the opposite way especially if the item was on sale. Also, and don't ever tell LoP that I said this, as long as you don't let them get destroyed by heat or cats or time, you can't really have too many "nice tires". As a matter of fact, I may be looking around for some nice fat tires for the Trek.
05-25-16, 10:34 AM
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05-25-16, 10:35 AM
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So, legally, every HR manager tells every GM, Plant Manager, and Engineering Manager that they are not able to give references, positive or negative. To comply with this, a code has developed by which we can give references to other GMs, Plant Managers, and Engineering Managers. I would share it with you folks, but if you don't already know it, you are most likely not a GM, Plant Manager, or Engineering Manager.
05-25-16, 10:36 AM
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^ ^ You've had cats destroy a tire?? That's an aggressive kitty! Closest my cat has come was peeing on a GP4000 I left on the floor unmounted for some reason.
05-25-16, 10:37 AM
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Vain, But Lacking Talent
I say get the tires. Unless they were seriously broke, I've never heard anyone say "Damn. I wish I hadn't bought those tires/that sweater/that lipstick/those pedals". I have, however heard plenty of complaining the opposite way especially if the item was on sale. Also, and don't ever tell LoP that I said this, as long as you don't let them get destroyed by heat or cats or time, you can't really have too many "nice tires". As a matter of fact, I may be looking around for some nice fat tires for the Trek.
