WhyFi

Ah, that. Give him a couple days to line up a scale shot with him supporting some of the weight just out of frame.

growlerdinky

canyoneagle

Your bravado is offputting.

Here.
With bottle cages installed.
You are seriously trolling.
That is my (oh so heavy 240g) saddle in the hook.
So, a 4 pound (claimed) difference. I'm not seeing this in the Ti choice alone, since your frame and fork are not that much lighter than my frame/fork.
For a guy like me, that's less than 2% difference in rider/bike weight.
Relax. You are good with your choice. Yours is a good frame. Stop preaching.

noodle soup

It's a nice bike, but it's not "Hot". and there's no ****ing way it's under 18 pounds with pedals and cages.

joejack951

canyoneagle

You, sir, are a master of beating physics.

I like your bike. Very nice.
Read up on physics.

noodle soup

I have that kind of time.

If someone gives me the list of parts, and an accurate frameset weight, I'll figure it out.

canyoneagle

To be honest, troll that he is, it is a very nice bike, and I'd consider it pretty hot, if unconventional.

canyoneagle

+1
Scale battle!
I'll video mine in the cradle for full context

Damn, feels like I'm in high school again LOL

noodle soup

It's a nice bike, and I'd be proud to own it, but there's no way I'd ever call it "Hot".

seau grateau

I lol'd at the Origin8 fork.

canyoneagle

You can start here
FWIW mine is 4.9

canyoneagle

Hence my challenge for a video.
walk up to the scale.
Hang the bike.
Walk back.

I know his will be lighter, but I'm guessing 3 or so pounds. A water bottle or bloat from a hard night.........

Again, feel like gym class in high school.

Perhaps we take the high road.
He's got a great frame and he's 100% on board with Ti.

joejack951

canyoneagle

The weight for weight's sake thing is so hilarious to me.

I think it might be an OCD thing for the hard core peeps.
I googled OCD, and once I knew what it is, I created a spreadsheet with calculations based on more google search statistics, and have determined that I am DEFINITELY not OCD. Or, a person in denial. Definitely not that. Even if I was, I wouldn't admit it.

I realize I am participating in a total derailing of the thread.
As you were.

MyTi

Bradleykd

Using the posted weights for a 53cm frame, 6700 groupset (shifters, crank, bb, fd, rd, cassette, chain, brakes), all the other obvious stuff, I gave him a cane creek 40 headset, FSA carbon bars, Michelin race lite tubes, and used the weight for my 3T carbon wheels and skewers.

Not counting cages it comes in right at 17lbs.

This doesn't account for the MTB cassette and RD, I don't think those are 6700 shifters, and there is definitely some extra weight in the wheels. I'd say just under 18lbs is probably right.

Still, pretty freakin light for the build.

Bradleykd

Deep section carbon wheels are heavy - especially with so many spokes, that big aluminum steer tube on the fork adds a bunch of weight, rim brakes are pretty standard, and carbon bars don't save much weight over aluminum.

If you lose the attitude and exaggeration, people will be a little more forgiving. People like to bully a bully. I'm not sure why you started being a bully, but if you quit all this nonsense will quit. I'd lay low for a bit and come back with commenting Hot or Not for a bit and leave all the exclamation marks out of it.

joejack951

You seem to forget that you are using a comparatively heavy frame and fork, not-so-light 50mm deep wheels, wide tires, a MTB derailleur and cassette, and a relatively ho-hum build everywhere else. Your wheels weigh nearly 1600 grams for the pair. That's 200 grams more than the wheels on my 16.65 lb. bike with a frame and fork that come in nearly a pound lighter than yours. Ti rails or not, your saddle gives up ~80 grams to a lightweight saddle like the Fizik Arione R1 on my heavier-than-your-claimed bike. I could go on.

Enjoy your bike.

joejack951

I agree (but still think it's over 18 lbs. all in). The Vortex is very light for a metal frame. I do wonder how long it will last under a nearly 300 lb. cyclist, though.

seypat

I check in on this thread from time to time. It appears that MyTi is a shill for the Ti frame industry. The way he is constanting hype beasting ti frames is beyond obsession. If he really wanted to do some actual good for those frames, he would take his act to the Clyde forum. If that bike/build can hold up under his stated weight, then there is a big market for it with the Clydes.

canyoneagle

<sigh>
Why would you assume no pedals?
That weight is as built, which includes pedals.
As stated before, much of the stated weight difference is build choice, so it is not just frameset weight. Again this difference is (at most) 3 pounds.

Time to get off this crazy train.

kbarch

I don't see how the rejection of a specific color or number of colors indicates good taste, only limited taste. That's a personal matter.
It seems to me that the blue, yellow and gray paint job was both imaginative and well-considered, and on the whole it's quite harmonious - an interesting, down-to-earth and breezy combination of those hues. If you ask me, if he'd gone with the more usual variation of royal blue and gold, or any single color, that would have been less tasteful.

I've seen lots of bikes here that showed little imagination and that aren't to my personal taste, but very few that show a lack of taste (I think we're all aficionados here). And while some may have "offended" my sensibilities, none were really in bad taste (that would be pretty unlikely: maybe blades projecting from the hubs, an exposed motor, a syringe and IV tube coming out of a bottle...).

growlerdinky

Ugly bike, though.

indyfabz

Sorry, but it's only a Litespeed. Ti for the masses.