Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Hot r Not

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Hot r Not

Old 09-25-18, 03:41 PM
  #27251  
MyTi
6-4 Titanium
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 330
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 36 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I get the attempt here, it cuts him down an notch and opens a door to potentially post your bike- 2 birds 1 stone right there.

but your dismissive comment that litespeed is titanium for the masses is akin to claiming Cannondale is aluminum for the masses or that trek and specialized are carbon for the masses.

yup- its all correct- they are aluminum and carbon for the masses. Being dismissive of it is absurd though and thats the logical conclusion to your comment.
He just called an American made 6-4 Ti frame mass produced. I don’t think he will listen to reason.
MyTi is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 03:45 PM
  #27252  
MyTi
6-4 Titanium
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 330
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 36 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951
You're surprised because you are ignoring the obvious (and continuing to believe that your bike actually weighs 16 lbs., which it does not). One of the reasons canyoneagle's bike is so light is that he is using a light groupset. Chorus is lighter than Ultegra R8000 by over 200 grams (https://ccache.cc/blogs/newsroom/201...ght-comparison). And you don't even have full Ultegra 6700 on your bike, let alone R8000. Your wheels are not light either regardless of the material used to produce the rims.
this is funny can’t believe I missed this. You don’t trust a professional scale at a LBS but will trust a $15 amazon luggage scale the guy used claiming a 60cm steel bike is 20.5 pounds? Interesting but faulty logic.

its 16 pounds.
MyTi is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 04:02 PM
  #27253  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
16lb 32oz, to be precise.

WhyFi is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 04:20 PM
  #27254  
kbarch
Senior Member
 
kbarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 4,286
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1096 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Take it outside, guys!

And now for a random bike pic: hot or not?
kbarch is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 04:24 PM
  #27255  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,756
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3190 Post(s)
Liked 2,460 Times in 1,489 Posts
That saddle makes it a not.
seypat is online now  
Old 09-25-18, 04:27 PM
  #27256  
redlude97
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,764
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1975 Post(s)
Liked 232 Times in 173 Posts
Originally Posted by kbarch
Take it outside, guys!

And now for a random bike pic: hot or not?
Is that dazzle urban camo that Tim is always talking about?
redlude97 is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 04:47 PM
  #27257  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by MyTi


He just called an American made 6-4 Ti frame mass produced. I don’t think he will listen to reason.
Do you think that the titanium used for your frame was made in the USA?
noodle soup is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 05:00 PM
  #27258  
joejack951
Senior Member
 
joejack951's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 12,098

Bikes: 2016 Hong Fu FM-079-F, 1984 Trek 660, 2005 Iron Horse Warrior Expert, 2009 Pedal Force CX1, 2016 Islabikes Beinn 20 (son's)

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1240 Post(s)
Liked 94 Times in 65 Posts


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.
joejack951 is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 05:00 PM
  #27259  
kbarch
Senior Member
 
kbarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 4,286
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1096 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by redlude97
Is that dazzle urban camo that Tim is always talking about?

Nah, but maybe sunlight coming in under the trees, shortly after sunrise makes it look that way.
kbarch is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 05:04 PM
  #27260  
kbarch
Senior Member
 
kbarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 4,286
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1096 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by joejack951


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.
For a kid's bike, that is beyond hot! That turquoise bar tape is brilliant.
kbarch is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 05:46 PM
  #27261  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by kbarch
Take it outside, guys!

And now for a random bike pic: hot or not?
that saddle and tape makes it look bad, but that is a real beauty
noodle soup is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 06:01 PM
  #27262  
canyoneagle
Senior Member
 
canyoneagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 4,692

Bikes: Vassago Moosknuckle Ti 29+ XTR, 90's Merckx Corsa-01 9sp Record, PROJECT: 1954 Frejus SuperCorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Liked 157 Times in 75 Posts
Originally Posted by kbarch
For a kid's bike, that is beyond hot! That turquoise bar tape is brilliant.
For a junior racer, this is a hot bike.I think yellow or black bar tape would take it up a notch. Not feeling the green, though I get the gist
canyoneagle is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 06:36 PM
  #27263  
Paul Barnard
For The Fun of It
 
Paul Barnard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Posts: 5,844

Bikes: Lynskey GR300, Lynskey Backroad, Litespeed T6, Lynskey MT29, Burley Duet

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2131 Post(s)
Liked 1,639 Times in 822 Posts
Originally Posted by MyTi


how is this two/three tone mess of a bike even warm. it can’t be helped due to the paint job. I’m finding that people here simply lack good taste. my goodness may the lord have mercy on my eyes. growlerdinky must of had his acid reflux cured after seeing this thing. Ok the blue is nice but blue and neon green? No.



It's not warm. It is white hot. As much as I love ti bikes, my second one arrives tomorrow, ti bikes are ugly. Your bike is ugly. And I don't say that lightly. Bare ti, either polished or milled is a half step above hideous. One of the things I like about it is that it's so ugly it will be less of a theft target. There's really nothing hot about it at all. I won't be posting mine here for the masses to comment on. I already know what people think about ti bikes. They think like I do, and they are right.

No matter how much you argue your points, you won't sway anyone towards ti. You may in fact sway them away. This seems like a good time to remind the readership that there are some normal people who love ti, so don't hold this against all of us.
Paul Barnard is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 06:38 PM
  #27264  
Paul Barnard
For The Fun of It
 
Paul Barnard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Posts: 5,844

Bikes: Lynskey GR300, Lynskey Backroad, Litespeed T6, Lynskey MT29, Burley Duet

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2131 Post(s)
Liked 1,639 Times in 822 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.
Well, heck yeah!
Paul Barnard is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 06:42 PM
  #27265  
Paul Barnard
For The Fun of It
 
Paul Barnard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Posts: 5,844

Bikes: Lynskey GR300, Lynskey Backroad, Litespeed T6, Lynskey MT29, Burley Duet

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2131 Post(s)
Liked 1,639 Times in 822 Posts
Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Possible reasons for someone to choose steel over ti.

- specific geometry for a handbuilt bike. Steel is typically less expensive, even handbuilt and the geometry will match the rider instead of off the peg ti frames.
- classic look. Some like the traditional and OS sized steel tubes compared to the typically larger ti tubes.
- traditional construction. Some like the look of lugged frames and dont want welds.
- negligible weight difference. Some dont care about the pound or whatever difference between quality steel and stock titanium frames.
- cost. Typically, steel frames cost less than titanium.

There are 5 real possible reasons. So now you know they very much exist(you already did, but thats another issue) and can stop asking why someone has a steel frame when titanium is lighter.
Read the reasons, commit them to memory, and stop asking.
And paint.
Paul Barnard is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 06:53 PM
  #27266  
cat0020
Ride more, eat less
 
cat0020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philla PA, Hoboken NJ, Brooklyn NY
Posts: 2,069

Bikes: Too many but never enough.

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 713 Post(s)
Liked 726 Times in 448 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951
What is the crankarm length?
cat0020 is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 07:44 PM
  #27267  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,756
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3190 Post(s)
Liked 2,460 Times in 1,489 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.
Hot!
seypat is online now  
Old 09-25-18, 07:50 PM
  #27268  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels,t.
HOT

I wish I had one like that when I was a kid.
noodle soup is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 09:17 PM
  #27269  
MyTi
6-4 Titanium
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 330
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 36 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by joejack951


Orbea something or other kids road bike. 24" wheels, came with 7 speed Sora mix which was upgraded to full Tiagra 4700 with Schwalbe One wheelchair tires (fastest/lightest tire option in the ISO 540mm size) for a small adult cyclist. Stock rims were rebuilt with Shimano 105 hubs and double butted Sapim spokes. Rear hub was a tight squeeze into the 126mm dropouts supported by super-short chainstays. Soma Thick & Zesty bar tape, Specialized Body Geometry women's saddle, and SPD pedals (by request). This is the only assembled pic I have of the bike but I know you will all love it.
It's a hot bike for some reason. I just like the colors on it looks almost like a toy bike you could get at toys r us, then you see the Orbea and cranks on it and you are like...ok this thing might be a serious kids bike that could support my regular burst of 1300 watts at the cranks. Usually welds on that are ghastly but fit the whole "look like a department store bike but not" theme.
MyTi is offline  
Old 09-25-18, 09:17 PM
  #27270  
Siu Blue Wind
Homey
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,518
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2424 Post(s)
Liked 1,392 Times in 891 Posts
Originally Posted by MyTi


how is this two/three tone mess of a bike even warm. it can’t be helped due to the paint job. I’m finding that people here simply lack good taste. my goodness may the lord have mercy on my eyes. growlerdinky must of had his acid reflux cured after seeing this thing. Ok the blue is nice but blue and neon green? No.


And some people lack class.

Because of these type of posts as well as some that were deleted, PLUS the fact that requests by moderation to stop are not being respected, this thread is closed until we get the energy to resume babysitting it.
__________________
Originally Posted by making
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.