Modern Steel Road Bike Appreciation Thread
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Good eye. They are sort of in between. The angle does exacerbate the appearance too as you noted.
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That's why I went with threadless. A few bolts and a stem swap is done.
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I appreciate my new (6 months old) Moulton TSR very much. It is, in fact, a steel bike, and while not the most modern design Moulton offers, it's still updated in a number of respects from its APB forefather. Clearly though, it has a pretty different ride from regular (essentially traditional) steel road bike (which I also enjoy, but two of those that I have are are vintage machines, not new).
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My steel small-wheeler is a '12 Mercier Nano, a fun little bike for shooting around town on, and maybe if I weren't all in on the b&w animal print thing, I might swap out that a**-hatchet of a saddle for something actually rideable, and venture a little longer and further on it, because despite the extreme looks, it's not really uncomfortable.
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Still gathering parts. Poprad may have all the pieces in the next few weeks. Breakaway is farther out still. I broke the bike fund with the virtually simultaneous purchase of the two of them, got to do some selling...
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I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
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^ Men do Not "impulse buy." We make very swift acquisition decisions which our gender had learned to do over eons of evolution as hunters in dangerous situations.
Buying that bike would have been an utterly rational survival based decision made swiftly because wasting time would have been anti-survival.
Buying that bike would have been an utterly rational survival based decision made swiftly because wasting time would have been anti-survival.
This thread is on the fast road to Suxville.
Would anyone care to take a stab at distinguishing the modifier "modern," as in modern steel bike, from "new" and "recent"?
It's a critical element (to an interesting conversation, anyway) that's blowin' right o'er some heads.
Would anyone care to take a stab at distinguishing the modifier "modern," as in modern steel bike, from "new" and "recent"?
It's a critical element (to an interesting conversation, anyway) that's blowin' right o'er some heads.
I've got a soft sport for steel Jamis bikes. I have one and my buddy has one he really likes as well. Very cool.
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I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding he bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding he bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
Your exaggeration ("riding on a cloud") actually discredits what you are saying. It just comes off as BS to anyone who has a wide range of experience with frames made of different materials.
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I used to believe that, but after looking at a few 'classic' looking ones, which are high polished aluminum, a single, smaller bolt to attach to the fork, and and under clamp for the handlebars just like on a threadless stem, I've learned to accept, hell I'll say it, even like some of them. They look good on the bikes I see them on, I think they fit well with the classic steel aesthetics.
That's all I'll say on the subject though, as I don't want this to thread to derail as I like looking at modern steel offerings!
That's all I'll say on the subject though, as I don't want this to thread to derail as I like looking at modern steel offerings!
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Well, he didn't specify whether it might have been a supercell during a massive thunderstorm ... But yeas, this hearkens back to the (absolutely accurate, I am sure) description on the steel sprint track bike with steel wheels eating up the trails better than a mountain bike.
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2014 Wraith Hustle...
Pictures by Ken Toda at the US National Criterium Championships
Regularly ridden, 16.34 lbs as you see it, and could be lighter.
US-made, Columbus, OH, Wraith Fabrications (Frame/Fork/Headset).
The rest of the build is entirely of used parts.
Regularly ridden, 16.34 lbs as you see it, and could be lighter.
US-made, Columbus, OH, Wraith Fabrications (Frame/Fork/Headset).
The rest of the build is entirely of used parts.
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@RobbieTunes That is one cool looking bike. I *almost* bought a Wraith... but that's another story for another thread.
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I've tried carbon forks on older steel bikes, and found the same as you did, the steel fork seems to be more in tune with the frame's mojo, and the bikes rode better with the OEM steel fork. I suppose those bike designers knew what they were doing, eh? I even tried a carbon fork in place of a Tange Mangalloy fork, the difference was 2 oz and the steel fork smoother.
If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.
If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.
I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.
Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
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I've tried carbon forks on older steel bikes, and found the same as you did, the steel fork seems to be more in tune with the frame's mojo, and the bikes rode better with the OEM steel fork. I suppose those bike designers knew what they were doing, eh? I even tried a carbon fork in place of a Tange Mangalloy fork, the difference was 2 oz and the steel fork smoother.
If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.
If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.
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Not to me. I understand what he's saying. There is a silkiness to the ride that doesn't always come through in a different genre. It's not universal, nor is the opposite with other materials. Synergy is real, I think, in a bike build. I've built some stinkers that should not have been, and some came out better than they had any right to be. I've had bikes that rode like a cloud, but handled like tractors, and bikes that were nimble and agile, but let your attention wander, and you're quickly in kimshi.