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Whether vintage auto's, motorcycles or bicycles, participating in accordance is the soul of these events. Sharing, experiencing and feeling these machines with your peers is 1000x better than seeing them in a museum or hiding away in some private collection.
As an example, I've been fortunate to experience motorcar events, 'strictly' limited to auto's pre- 1910. The pitfalls of traveling distances in open, flimsy, smelly, oily, horrible brakes, steering, quirky control, wooden spoke, fragile vehicles over hilly, winding roads, in the cold and rain is joy! The effort, struggle and challenge to complete is the highlight. You couldn't even compare to someone in the luxury of a closed body late 20's Ford A. BTW: I've known a few old timers in their 90's, crank starting and battling the elements in these events. To observe and be with them is a hoot.
The same goes for the restrictions of L'Eroica. For someone to complain or feeling slighted for not having a bike meeting requirements is silly. The price of a vintage bike meeting requirements is a 'fraction' the cost of most newer bikes. Personally I could care less if one rides breaking some rules but too bad for them missing out the purpose of the event.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
As an example, I've been fortunate to experience motorcar events, 'strictly' limited to auto's pre- 1910. The pitfalls of traveling distances in open, flimsy, smelly, oily, horrible brakes, steering, quirky control, wooden spoke, fragile vehicles over hilly, winding roads, in the cold and rain is joy! The effort, struggle and challenge to complete is the highlight. You couldn't even compare to someone in the luxury of a closed body late 20's Ford A. BTW: I've known a few old timers in their 90's, crank starting and battling the elements in these events. To observe and be with them is a hoot.
The same goes for the restrictions of L'Eroica. For someone to complain or feeling slighted for not having a bike meeting requirements is silly. The price of a vintage bike meeting requirements is a 'fraction' the cost of most newer bikes. Personally I could care less if one rides breaking some rules but too bad for them missing out the purpose of the event.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
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The same goes for the restrictions of L'Eroica. For someone to complain or feeling slighted for not having a bike meeting requirements is silly. The price of a vintage bike meeting requirements is a 'fraction' the cost of most newer bikes. Personally I could care less if one rides breaking some rules but too bad for them missing out the purpose of the event.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
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Fantastic!!
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Whether vintage auto's, motorcycles or bicycles, participating in accordance is the soul of these events. Sharing, experiencing and feeling these machines with your peers is 1000x better than seeing them in a museum or hiding away in some private collection.
As an example, I've been fortunate to experience motorcar events, 'strictly' limited to auto's pre- 1910. The pitfalls of traveling distances in open, flimsy, smelly, oily, horrible brakes, steering, quirky control, wooden spoke, fragile vehicles over hilly, winding roads, in the cold and rain is joy! The effort, struggle and challenge to complete is the highlight. You couldn't even compare to someone in the luxury of a closed body late 20's Ford A. BTW: I've known a few old timers in their 90's, crank starting and battling the elements in these events. To observe and be with them is a hoot.
The same goes for the restrictions of L'Eroica. For someone to complain or feeling slighted for not having a bike meeting requirements is silly. The price of a vintage bike meeting requirements is a 'fraction' the cost of most newer bikes. Personally I could care less if one rides breaking some rules but too bad for them missing out the purpose of the event.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
As an example, I've been fortunate to experience motorcar events, 'strictly' limited to auto's pre- 1910. The pitfalls of traveling distances in open, flimsy, smelly, oily, horrible brakes, steering, quirky control, wooden spoke, fragile vehicles over hilly, winding roads, in the cold and rain is joy! The effort, struggle and challenge to complete is the highlight. You couldn't even compare to someone in the luxury of a closed body late 20's Ford A. BTW: I've known a few old timers in their 90's, crank starting and battling the elements in these events. To observe and be with them is a hoot.
The same goes for the restrictions of L'Eroica. For someone to complain or feeling slighted for not having a bike meeting requirements is silly. The price of a vintage bike meeting requirements is a 'fraction' the cost of most newer bikes. Personally I could care less if one rides breaking some rules but too bad for them missing out the purpose of the event.
Hopefully all would follow the spirit of it. I'm mostly impressed by those behind the scene and organizing these fantastic venues. Following what goals they created would be the return compliment to them and rewarding to ones self as well.
Maybe I'll ride in one in the near future,....
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You know, this is coming up fast! Pretty short fuse for such a big event. You have your work cut out for you #EroicaCA ! Looking forward to being a part of this and meeting some of our fellow enthusiasts. Best Wishes & Merry Christmas to all!
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So lets hope we get some good dealers and hope to see some hidden treasures at the first annual event in April.
Hope to see you there.
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You know, this is coming up fast! Pretty short fuse for such a big event. You have your work cut out for you @EroicaCA ! Looking forward to being a part of this and meeting some of our fellow enthusiasts. Best Wishes & Merry Christmas to all!
The Paso Robles downtown city park has all the restaurants, pubs, wine tasting rooms, cafes and a multi screen movie theater. We will be offering some off site activities as well. It should be a lot of fun.
Happy Holidays to you all and hope to see you in April.
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So, is the event in the downtown park or at the fairgrounds? The park is pretty big but would not be big enough for a L'Eroica Britannia first year sized event.
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This is exciting news indeed! I will make every effort to participate...a chance to return to this region with vintage steel.
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The wine festival had over 25000 guests in the park. Paso Robles is much bigger than Gaiole in Chianti, Italy.
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A quick question for someone who would know (rather than guess). Reading the rules, explicitly including -- "road racing bikes, built before 1987"
I have a 1983 steel bike that meets all of the requirements with one minor (in my opinion) technicality -- it was built and sold as a "touring" bike.
Most differences are hardly noticeable with the exception of a few added braze-ons, 40-spoke wheels (vs 32) and slightly longer chainstays / wheel base.
Would this bike be accepted?
I would hate to get excited about riding this bike on the long route, and then discover that it wasn't allowed or not welcomed (scorned / "disqualified").
Thanks in advance.
I have a 1983 steel bike that meets all of the requirements with one minor (in my opinion) technicality -- it was built and sold as a "touring" bike.
Most differences are hardly noticeable with the exception of a few added braze-ons, 40-spoke wheels (vs 32) and slightly longer chainstays / wheel base.
Would this bike be accepted?
I would hate to get excited about riding this bike on the long route, and then discover that it wasn't allowed or not welcomed (scorned / "disqualified").
Thanks in advance.
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It would not keep you from participating in prior L'Eroica events. But I would contact the organiser by email or PM to verify.
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I'm excited about riding the event. I don't want to over think to rules but
Also, will the rides be conducted as brevets? I understand that at least some other l'Eroica events have been ACP brevets.
Regardless, If I get an entry I will rustle up an appropriate bike and be there to see you all!
Jim Harris
Quartz Hill, CA
- wheels must have at least 32 spokes with a low profile (less than 20 mm).
Also, will the rides be conducted as brevets? I understand that at least some other l'Eroica events have been ACP brevets.
Regardless, If I get an entry I will rustle up an appropriate bike and be there to see you all!
Jim Harris
Quartz Hill, CA
Do they make downtube shifters for 11 speed?
Article 6 - Criteria for admission
Only cyclists with "L’Eroica" bicycles will be permitted to participate.
"L’Eroica" bicycles are bicycles which have all the following characteristics:
Article 6 - Criteria for admission
Only cyclists with "L’Eroica" bicycles will be permitted to participate.
"L’Eroica" bicycles are bicycles which have all the following characteristics:
- road racing bikes, built before 1987 (not cycle-cross or time trial bikes);
- steel frame (the only aluminium frame bikes permitted are ALAN or VITUS with either screwed or glued joints);
- gear shift levers on the down tube of the frame (exceptionally, only pre-1980 bar-end gear shifts are allowed);
- pedals with toe clips and fitted straps (quick release pedals are not allowed, except Cinelli M71 pedals);
- passage of brake cables outside the handlebars (the passage of cables inside the frame is acceptable);
- wheels must have at least 32 spokes with a low profile (less than 20 mm).
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A quick question for someone who would know (rather than guess). Reading the rules, explicitly including -- "road racing bikes, built before 1987"
I have a 1983 steel bike that meets all of the requirements with one minor (in my opinion) technicality -- it was built and sold as a "touring" bike.
Most differences are hardly noticeable with the exception of a few added braze-ons, 40-spoke wheels (vs 32) and slightly longer chainstays / wheel base.
Would this bike be accepted?
I would hate to get excited about riding this bike on the long route, and then discover that it wasn't allowed or not welcomed (scorned / "disqualified").
Thanks in advance.
I have a 1983 steel bike that meets all of the requirements with one minor (in my opinion) technicality -- it was built and sold as a "touring" bike.
Most differences are hardly noticeable with the exception of a few added braze-ons, 40-spoke wheels (vs 32) and slightly longer chainstays / wheel base.
Would this bike be accepted?
I would hate to get excited about riding this bike on the long route, and then discover that it wasn't allowed or not welcomed (scorned / "disqualified").
Thanks in advance.
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I'm excited about riding the event. I don't want to over think to rules but
Also, will the rides be conducted as brevets? I understand that at least some other l'Eroica events have been ACP brevets.
Regardless, If I get an entry I will rustle up an appropriate bike and be there to see you all!
Jim Harris
Quartz Hill, CA
- wheels must have at least 32 spokes with a low profile (less than 20 mm).
Also, will the rides be conducted as brevets? I understand that at least some other l'Eroica events have been ACP brevets.
Regardless, If I get an entry I will rustle up an appropriate bike and be there to see you all!
Jim Harris
Quartz Hill, CA
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By registering your email address here you will receive the latest info as we get ready to launch the official registration website.
Thank you.
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Had me confused too, though I'm pretty sure even my 80s aero rims are that wide at least. Hopefully there'll be a good comprehensive list of requirements closer to the event date.
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Hmm. Interesting. I could drive down from Portland with my son for this ride.
Problem is, he doesn't have a compliant bike. His 1974 Raleigh Gran Sport has a 10 speed Campagnolo drivetrain with brifters. His 1986 Peugeot PX has aero levers and indexed downtube shifters.
I will measure to see if he can fit the 1977 PX-10 frame. If so, then I can probably get that built up with the original components in time. I could ride my 1978 Raleigh Team Pro.
Question, however: what will the roads be like?
Neither of the bikes we'd bring are exactly gravel grinders. Both have tubular rims and would wear 23-25 mm tires, with racy frame geometry. I have ridden the Team Pro on a gravel road and really did not enjoy the experience.
Problem is, he doesn't have a compliant bike. His 1974 Raleigh Gran Sport has a 10 speed Campagnolo drivetrain with brifters. His 1986 Peugeot PX has aero levers and indexed downtube shifters.
I will measure to see if he can fit the 1977 PX-10 frame. If so, then I can probably get that built up with the original components in time. I could ride my 1978 Raleigh Team Pro.
Question, however: what will the roads be like?
Neither of the bikes we'd bring are exactly gravel grinders. Both have tubular rims and would wear 23-25 mm tires, with racy frame geometry. I have ridden the Team Pro on a gravel road and really did not enjoy the experience.
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