it's been said a thousand times before, but get a pro fit
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you're right, I'm sure it was 8,000 miles in a calendar month. that's totally doable... 30mph average for 12 hours a day is only 22 days. piece of cake!
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Why get a pro fit when you can just post a picture of your bike on the 41 and get a free and instant fitting?
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I went to get a pro fit for my current main ride about 6 weeks and 500 - 600 miles after I got it. The fitter measured my knee angle at a couple of locations around the stroke, watched me spin for about 10 minutes at different cadences and resistance, had me get off the bike so he could adjust the saddle angle down by a couple of degrees, put me back on the bike to check his work and said, "You're already there, don't need me, so - no charge"
Interestingly, that minor saddle angle adjustment made a noticeable difference and I would have been happy to pay for his services.
One thing to bear in mind is that the original setup was done by eye by my neighbor, an ex pro, current bike manufacturer rep. He told me, "Ride for 500 miles and then get a fitting." I guess he knows his stuff.
Interestingly, that minor saddle angle adjustment made a noticeable difference and I would have been happy to pay for his services.
One thing to bear in mind is that the original setup was done by eye by my neighbor, an ex pro, current bike manufacturer rep. He told me, "Ride for 500 miles and then get a fitting." I guess he knows his stuff.
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I have never had the need for a fit. I was mentored on bike fit in the beginning at age 20 by local racers, raced 6 years on multiple bikes, and now at age 47 having averaged 2,000+ miles per year I have not had any physical issues or efficiency problems.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
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yep, I kept telling myself
"it's too much money"
"I'll do it in the off-season"
"I want to lose some weight first"
"I'll just read peter white's website and figure it out myself"
what an idiot I was. finally I went tonight and got a pro fit. always thought I had a leg-length discrepancy and had adjusted my cleats (unsuccessfully) to compensate.
dead wrong. for about 8,000 miles and an elapsed month of my life I'd been riding on a saddle that was too narrow, cleats too far forward, with bars too low, etc etc etc.
idiot me.
lots of shops, at least in cold areas, have winter discounts. just do it.
"it's too much money"
"I'll do it in the off-season"
"I want to lose some weight first"
"I'll just read peter white's website and figure it out myself"
what an idiot I was. finally I went tonight and got a pro fit. always thought I had a leg-length discrepancy and had adjusted my cleats (unsuccessfully) to compensate.
dead wrong. for about 8,000 miles and an elapsed month of my life I'd been riding on a saddle that was too narrow, cleats too far forward, with bars too low, etc etc etc.
idiot me.
lots of shops, at least in cold areas, have winter discounts. just do it.
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I have never had the need for a fit. I was mentored on bike fit in the beginning at age 20 by local racers, raced 6 years on multiple bikes, and now at age 47 having averaged 2,000+ miles per year I have not had any physical issues or efficiency problems.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
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No they don't. Well, maybe if you only read the first and last sentence.
When he says he never had the need for a fit, he meant he never had the need for a pro fit, which was what the now absent OP stated in his post.
When he says he never had the need for a fit, he meant he never had the need for a pro fit, which was what the now absent OP stated in his post.
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I went to a bike fitter and had a very embarrassing but useful session that has greatly improved my comfort on the bike. He told me to quit trying to wedge my frank and beans through the hole in my Selle Anatomica saddle. He explained that that's not what it's for. Plus I got a shorter, higher-angle stem and compact handlebars. $250 well spent.
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I have never had the need for a fit. I was mentored on bike fit in the beginning at age 20 by local racers, raced 6 years on multiple bikes, and now at age 47 having averaged 2,000+ miles per year I have not had any physical issues or efficiency problems.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
One of the best cycling comments I ever got was from a friend who owned a bicycle shop who said to me jealously; "do you have to look so comfortable on a bike? You look like you were born on that thing". He now builds custom high end bikes and owns a fit business but doesn't bother to try to get me in there.
I think a person can figure out fit on their own.
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A similar thread was on another BF forum a while ago. This is one of those subjects that you can beat to death and still have no right or wrong way to get fit on your bike. There are those that are in tune with their bodies and have the ability to know what the problem is and how to make the adjustments that work for them. There are those that know there is something wrong with their fit but even after reading articles and watching videos, can't apply the techniques to their hands. There are those that could do the adjustments themselves, but don't want to bother with it. Then there are those that have no clue. I applaud those that can do their own fit adjustments and get it right on. I'm the guy that can do it but doesn't want to ride in discomfort while I try to figure it out.
I got a Retul fitting just after I got my first road bike because I had a 100k charity ride coming up the next month and didn't want to do that ride and not be properly fit with self attempted trial and error settings. It took three sessions and two weeks to get the bike properly adjusted. For me, that was the best investment I have made on anything cycling. I put 3,100 miles on the bike in one year and didn't have the first problem with fit issues. I just bought a new bike and the settings from the old bike were transferred to the new one. A quick 20 minutes on the computer to verify the settings and I was on the bike and riding as if it was the old bike that was perfectly dialed in for me.
I got a Retul fitting just after I got my first road bike because I had a 100k charity ride coming up the next month and didn't want to do that ride and not be properly fit with self attempted trial and error settings. It took three sessions and two weeks to get the bike properly adjusted. For me, that was the best investment I have made on anything cycling. I put 3,100 miles on the bike in one year and didn't have the first problem with fit issues. I just bought a new bike and the settings from the old bike were transferred to the new one. A quick 20 minutes on the computer to verify the settings and I was on the bike and riding as if it was the old bike that was perfectly dialed in for me.
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In my experience 'pro' is a euphemism meaning "you paid for it." There are good fitters and bad. Some trained in the same techniques and schools of thought. If that particular school of thought matches your needs you're set. If not, and the fitter can't see beyond the box that's been constructed for them you could be left with a less than ideal fit. The simple fact is that the body will adapt to a wide range of possible positions on the bike, and short of trying to eek an extra watt out here and there one is likely to never know the difference between how they're accustomed to riding and the elusive perfect fit. Money on fits are best served for newbies and guys and gals who are suffering from injuries and problems, which of course could be alleviated by a bike adjustment or saddle change. The idea that everyone needs a pro fit is erroneous, as most fit guidelines one can find online will put a rider in a position comparable within the margin of error of any other fit system.
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NOpe, I can fix my own speeding tickets, drill and fill my own cavities, and set my own broken bones when needed. I do rarely drink beer, but when I do, I dring Dos XX
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Hey MtalinM, you didn't by any chance happen to have a set of integrated FSA bar/stem combo on your bike before your fitting, did you?
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In my experience 'pro' is a euphemism meaning "you paid for it." There are good fitters and bad. Some trained in the same techniques and schools of thought. If that particular school of thought matches your needs you're set. If not, and the fitter can't see beyond the box that's been constructed for them you could be left with a less than ideal fit.
In this case though I believe I know who fitted the OP. If it is who I think it is he is both a serious rider/ racer and he accepts that fitting is merely formulaic. I also shelled out for a fit from him and I can say he gave me more tips then anything, taught me more about my position, my flexibility (I am more flexible then I thought) and anatomical discrepancies (leg length differences right here). With his help I actually learned how to fit myself better.
A fitter is not always just someone who performs the fit, alot of times they are a teacher aswell. Just like someone might pay for a coach or training peak software to help with analyzation sometimes paying a fitter is the same thing, a lesson.
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yep, I kept telling myself
"it's too much money"
"I'll do it in the off-season"
"I want to lose some weight first"
"I'll just read peter white's website and figure it out myself"
what an idiot I was. finally I went tonight and got a pro fit. always thought I had a leg-length discrepancy and had adjusted my cleats (unsuccessfully) to compensate.
dead wrong. for about 8,000 miles and an elapsed month of my life I'd been riding on a saddle that was too narrow, cleats too far forward, with bars too low, etc etc etc.
idiot me.
lots of shops, at least in cold areas, have winter discounts. just do it.
"it's too much money"
"I'll do it in the off-season"
"I want to lose some weight first"
"I'll just read peter white's website and figure it out myself"
what an idiot I was. finally I went tonight and got a pro fit. always thought I had a leg-length discrepancy and had adjusted my cleats (unsuccessfully) to compensate.
dead wrong. for about 8,000 miles and an elapsed month of my life I'd been riding on a saddle that was too narrow, cleats too far forward, with bars too low, etc etc etc.
idiot me.
lots of shops, at least in cold areas, have winter discounts. just do it.
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I think a good fit is very worthwhile. I fit myself and was pretty comfortable on my bike. Last year I decided to get a BG Fit done. My saddle was moved up and back, which greatly improved my balance on the saddle and therefore my longer distance hand/arm comfort. I now know what I didn't know about my fit and was able to transfer that to my other bikes, as well as help my brother improve his comfort by improving his balance on the saddle.
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In my experience 'pro' is a euphemism meaning "you paid for it." There are good fitters and bad. Some trained in the same techniques and schools of thought. If that particular school of thought matches your needs you're set. If not, and the fitter can't see beyond the box that's been constructed for them you could be left with a less than ideal fit. The simple fact is that the body will adapt to a wide range of possible positions on the bike, and short of trying to eek an extra watt out here and there one is likely to never know the difference between how they're accustomed to riding and the elusive perfect fit. Money on fits are best served for newbies and guys and gals who are suffering from injuries and problems, which of course could be alleviated by a bike adjustment or saddle change. The idea that everyone needs a pro fit is erroneous, as most fit guidelines one can find online will put a rider in a position comparable within the margin of error of any other fit system.
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I've found trying to fine tune or even get in the ball park with fitting to be maddening. The best way to describe fitting a bike myself is this.
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It was well worth it for me. I went here - https://www.endurancewerx.com/
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I'm looking for that picture of Fabian Cancellara going through a fitting with Andy Pruitt.
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