Group Ride Research Question
#26
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what’s your objection to people skipping pulls. If you’re struggling, it’s better to skip a pull, than slow or disrupt the group by attempting to pull when you’re not up to it. IMHO, it’s perfectly acceptable to rotate through at the front without pulling for any significant time, or to allow people to rotate in ahead of you at the back. Neither disrupts the group, and your mere presence adds to the overall draft effect of the group. Also you may be able contribute more after you’ve skipped a turn or two.
Just don’t skip pulls the whole ride and then contest the sprints
Just don’t skip pulls the whole ride and then contest the sprints
Amd FWIW I used to be that guy until I got yelled at by a veteran for doing stupid ****, that was all it took for me to read up on how to ride in a paceline.
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The question to me is whether riders are using foveal or peripheral vision.
Hockey players (cyclists) who focus on the puck (wheel in front of them) land up on the ice (pavement).
I use a soft vision (peripheral) looking up the pack and road
Hockey players (cyclists) who focus on the puck (wheel in front of them) land up on the ice (pavement).
I use a soft vision (peripheral) looking up the pack and road
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specifically people who consistently skip taking their pulls at the front. One guy in particular who pulls off when he's 2 bikes from the front,, and is the same guy who will try to insert himself into the middle of the group instead of falling all the way to the back..
Amd FWIW I used to be that guy until I got yelled at by a veteran for doing stupid ****, that was all it took for me to read up on how to ride in a paceline.
Amd FWIW I used to be that guy until I got yelled at by a veteran for doing stupid ****, that was all it took for me to read up on how to ride in a paceline.
Howver, skipping a turn in the fashion I described is perfectly appropriate and helps rather than hinders the group.
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#29
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pulling out of the pace line (not in a race, or a competitive ride) 2 wheels from the front and asserting yourself back in the middle I agree is disruptive and should be frowned upon.
Howver, skipping a turn in the fashion I described is perfectly appropriate and helps rather than hinders the group.
Howver, skipping a turn in the fashion I described is perfectly appropriate and helps rather than hinders the group.
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-wheel in front of me
-down road to predict group movements/actions, bunny hop pot hole someone didn't call out
-NOT the gps
when on front:
-up road to predict obstacles, call out potholes/debris
-occasionally a gps glance, reason different if group chill ride versus race/hammerfest ride
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I'm usually on my phone texting, or alternatively changing my screen layout on the garmin
#32
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Similar to what others have said, if I'm riding in the middle of a larger group, I'm scanning to see what riders ahead are doing, as much of the road surface as possible, the position of wheels ahead, and looking for riders to my side or slightly behind if it sounds like someone is half-wheeling me. Basically, I want to be ready to take evasive action or brake safely if it's necessary. But if I'm riding in a fast paceline with a smaller group of similarly fit riders who I trust, then I'll spend much more time looking at the wheel in front of me, watching that rider's path and maintaining an appropriate distance in order to keep the paceline together.
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Basically what Bob Ross said: looking through the rider and up the road. You've also got to be aware of your peripheral vision too if there might be riders moving up on the sides.
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But maybe its my 'aging', but anything which isn;t a sanctioned race, is just a 'ride' to me (which these days is everything... LOL!)
'Tactical' riding is/was reserved to racing. And 'yelling' at another rider never seemed to produce the effect hoped for.
If a rider needs and could use 'coaching', best to provide that in some positive, 'conversational' fashion. If the rider is a d1%k, then prolly best to just keep plenty of buffer space and tactics.
Any 'group' rides I do these days, finds me being the oldest rider, by far (there are 3-4 other guys my age and we know each other well...). Pride has me pulling thru when it comes my turn, but how long will vary quite a bit. As Merlinextralight noted, sometimes you just gotta pull thru and fall off quickly. Nothing wrong with that.
Good awareness and 'chill' assures your ride will always be fun.
When anyone starts making their income from their riding, then you're OK to get 'serious'... LOL!
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