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Just dropped $50 on this Roy Thame bicycle. I have questions.

Old 05-17-20, 12:08 PM
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Just dropped $50 on this Roy Thame bicycle. I have questions.

This Reynolds 531 english frame has a conglomeration of components. Campy Record crankset & hubs, Dura Ace FD & Hubs, Shimano Tri-color 600 RD and Weinmann 730 brakes. My question is what group set should I choose to rebuild for real use? I have an old Campy Chorus 9-speed I could use or a Shimano 105 9-speed triple?






Or would it look better to rebuild it with a vintage group set? I don't like older brakesets?
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That seems like a great deal to me and one of the more interesting posts lately. Hadn't heard of Roy Thame before, but a quick search revealed an interesting history: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/l...oy-thame-90599
Since you have the campy crank and hubs already (and maybe the pedals?), and since it is a great peace of history, I'd go with vintage campy parts for a vintage group set. Or if you choose to go modern, the campy chorus, to be consistent with Roy Thame's career.
Have to agree the brakes currently on there are the weakest link in what you got.
I see H. Lloyd even has the Roy Thame decals, and noticed this link to an old Roy Thame catalog fwiw: https://threespeedhub.com/wp-content/...s-1970s-UK.pdf
Will be real interested in seeing what you do with this!
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Great score, no way to go wrong here, one of the many very well respected marques.

Vintage Campy always the go to on these but you could mix it up, I would get a Campy HS on there just because.

Standing by for what you do with this.
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I almost bought a Roy Thames frame earlier this year but then a complete Whitcomb popped up locally I couldn't resist. I still think I should have bought both.

If you go with a modern drive train, you will need to spread the rear triangle to 130. Not a big deal but it is a consideration. I'm with KenNC ; I'd go with vintage parts on this bike. You already have a crank and pedals. Are the wheels serviceable? If they are, you are just looking to pick up derailleurs and brakes. I'd be tempted to go Suntour with the derailleurs on this build.

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Handsome!

Love this colour; looks like a Naples yellow (artist's colour - but then it appears as though you have an artist in the household).

Sometime when convenient please make some photos in bright sunlight.

Lug pattern, crown and shell all NERVEX Professionnel -




[pattern offered both with and without the reinforcing ring]

Date looks to be close to nineteen and seventy-four.

Given the extent of corrosion on plated fittings you will wish to apply a rust inhibitor to frame interior prior to reassembly.

Headset commenced its life as a Tange Falcon.

Me vote would be for a period build rather than the two options you mention.

With regard to brakes the first step would be to measure the brake centers. These values will determine what your options be in that area.


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Nice to see another Roy Thame on this forum. If mid-seventies, it was probably built by Tom Quick, He took over from Reg Collard as the house builder for the Putney shop sometime between 1970 and 1975, according to the interwebs.

Agree with previous posters that a period build would be nice.
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Just got back from a ride on my Thame.Always happy when I ride it. As far as components, you might want to check the rear drop out spacing. Mine came to me as 120. Itís now spread to 126 to match my other bikes.
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Whichever build gets it on the road the most is my pick ​​​​​​ Hard to go wrong with campy, I think it'd look nice. But if it is 120mm, spreading that to 130mm can be a little challenging.


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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Nice to see another Roy Thame on this forum. If mid-seventies, it was probably built by Tom Quick, He took over from Reg Collard as the house builder for the Putney shop sometime between 1970 and 1975, according to the interwebs.

Agree with previous posters that a period build would be nice.
Tommy Quick took over from Reg Collard in 1970. I have a 1967 Holdsworth Italia built by Tommy at the Putney shop . And a 1985 he built at his own shop in South London. They are both gems.

If the OP could provide a pic of the serial number it would be much appreciated.
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Great score! And another vote for Campy NR. Just so right for a bike of that vintage level of patina.

But ... if you really hate old brakes, then go for an all 600 TriColor build with the later dual pivot brakes. They work as well as anything I've used.
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1151 stamped on the bottom bracket.
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1151 stamped on the bottom bracket.
How was it stamped? Like this? North to South Or across the BB or East to West?

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East to West. Should I paint the frame or just clean it up and clear coat it?
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East to West. Should I paint the frame or just clean it up and clear coat it?
East to West then it's probably not a T.J. Quick frame. No worries though Roy Thame had many fine builders available to him.
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Well the original color was a much brighter orange. Thoughts?

Well the original color was a much brighter orange that can be seen on the fork steered and under the components. I decided to strip the paint, clean up the rust and primer. Man! I'm tired of wet sanding. The best match I could find for that orange was "Clockwork Orange" by Montana. Thoughts on the color before proceeding are welcome.






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Honestly, I would take what appears to be the truest color sample you have, the fork for instance, and take it to a paint shop to match. You are into the bike for very little, so why not splurge a little on the correct paint color? Just my opinion of course.

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Old 06-20-20, 04:00 PM
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OK. Progress report. Frame stripped, primer applied, orange base coat applied, waiting on new decals from Gus Salmon (Thanks Gus! For all your help.) Bike identified as a 1974 Roy Thame Tourissimo. Luckily, I have the original rear pannier rack. I will restore and install it on the final product. Next steps; wet sanding, decal application, clear coat application... and we will report again with progress. Installing NOS Shimano 600 tricolor rear and front derailleur. Reinstalling the original campy crankset, Suntour Barcons, and the Dura Ace Levers.




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