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Some cyclists and arrogance

Old 05-25-20, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
I'm of course not speaking about ALL by any means but what is it about cyclists (especially roadies) who have this certain arrogance/elitist attitude about them? Guess cuz it can be quite a pricey sport maybe?
LMAO. If anyone passes me and I fail to wave it is because I am of an age that I need both hands on the handlebars and both eyes on the road. However, if stopped for something I will be more talkative than one would like. So best to just let me stroll on by on my not too expensive but good enough for me bike. I hike more than I bike actually, and have found there are times, especially on a crowded trail that I just want to be left alone to my thoughts, solitude. I start out saying hello to other trailblazers, but after a while I am ready to quietly go my way. So perhaps there are those much more experienced bikers than I am who feel the same way. I hike or bike for peace of mind and often just get in a zone in my head where I don't want that spell broken. Kind of like active meditation.
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Old 05-25-20, 12:12 PM
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I do a partial wave (hands never leaving the bar or hoods) to everyone - some wave back, some don't - doesn't change my routine, I still wave
I have noticed during my years of riding that mountain bikers seem to be acknowledge the wave more than roadies seem to
who knows why?
as far as being arrogant - the only time I am arrogant with my "roadiness" is when any of my non cycling friends or coworkers make jabs at me for wearing cycling shorts, jerseys, etc...
then my usual response is - go out for a ride with me & then you can make fun of me all you want...
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Old 05-25-20, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Same old, same old. Their bike cost more, they must be an ass. I've learned that what we in the US call "reverse snobbery" is called "inverse snobbery" in the UK. Still pondering which term is most descriptive.
Youd be very lucky to receive any acknowledgment in the UK, either riding or walking.
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Old 05-25-20, 02:50 PM
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Have you ever asked yourself why you wave to other cyclists?

When I was riding motorcycles, the same stupid threads on moto forums were common; "some guy on a (insert bike brand/type here) didn't wave back to me so they, and by extension, anyone riding that brand/type of motorcycle is an elitist jerk".

I would say in general I am a waiver, but mostly that is because of the type of rider I am. I'm riding a bike as a way to enjoy the outdoors, explore new roads, and generally have fun. I wave at others as a way of sharing an experience. Like saying "Man, I am having a great time on my ride today, how about you?"

I also realize that everyone I wave to may not be having the same kind of experience as me. Perhaps they are on a rigorous training ride, or on their way to work, or thinking about some difficult time they are going through and not necessarily enjoying their ride same way I am. It doesn't bother me in the least if someone waves or not and I think it's a bit self centered to think poorly about someone because they didn't acknowledge your wave. Maybe it wasn't a slight to you. Maybe they just didn't feel like it.
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Old 05-25-20, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ogsarg View Post
It doesn't bother me in the least if someone waves or not and I think it's a bit self centered to think poorly about someone because they didn't acknowledge your wave. Maybe it wasn't a slight to you. Maybe they just didn't feel like it.
Exactly, this.


It's extremely narcissistic and self-absorbed to think you get to dictate someone's level of enjoyment of an activity by whether or not they do something you think they should do.

Your ride is about you. Everyone's else's ride is about them. You don't get to make other people's rides about you.
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Old 05-25-20, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
I see your point but it just seems a bit more in this sport..maybe im totally wrong tho
No you're 100 % correct.
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Old 05-25-20, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by greengo View Post
I have noticed during my years of riding that mountain bikers seem to be acknowledge the wave more than roadies seem to
who knows why?
Cos they are going too slow..?

I was doing anaerobic intervals today and passed a guy on a hybrid just as i was starting to ramp up, about 5 seconds into the interval (really strong headwinds too, so i was going fairly slowly). As I pass him, I heard him say "hi".

a) Under normal circumstances, I would not have heard someone behind me unless they yelled, and he would have likely thought me a dick
b) I gave him a raised hand acknowledgement, if for no other reason than to avoid the risk that he was a member here and would start another thread about arrogant roadies.
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Old 05-25-20, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BenBoozer View Post
My mom used to tell me when I complained about the "other" kids in school growing up (only black kid in my class thru grade 6) that I have no control over how someone responds to me because their response is based on how they are feeling about themselves. She was a very smart lady.
This is the defining post in this thread! Just remember this one, and we can all just keep crankin' right on by, and never let an unreturned wave ruin our day!
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Old 05-26-20, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Artmo View Post
Youd be very lucky to receive any acknowledgment in the UK, either riding or walking.
Rubbish. I get a nod, a wave, a hello from 99% of other cyclists and walkers.
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Old 05-26-20, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferCyclist View Post
Rubbish. I get a nod, a wave, a hello from 99% of other cyclists and walkers.
You must live in the more friendly North😊
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Old 05-26-20, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Artmo View Post
You must live in the more friendly North😊
Nope in Pembrokeshire West Wales and yes do get the odd wannabe who ignores a wave but like I said 99% respond.
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Old 05-26-20, 08:32 AM
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I guess, i dont understand. A detail or two why cyclists/roadies seem arrogant to you might help me understand.

Ive certainly run into a handful of roadies that wont even say hi. Conversely, most of my roadie friends are easy going beer drinkers.
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Old 05-26-20, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WinterCommuter View Post
I guess, i dont understand. A detail or two why cyclists/roadies seem arrogant to you might help me understand.

Ive certainly run into a handful of roadies that wont even say hi. Conversely, most of my roadie friends are easy going beer drinkers.
They just don't understand "Minnesota Nice" over in Czech.
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Old 05-26-20, 01:54 PM
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A lot of roadies are like my dog. Super friendly towards family and friends and a ***** to everyone else.
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Old 05-26-20, 04:46 PM
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Snobs? Cyclists?
You have not been around the tennis, golf, boating or swimming pool crowd lately.

and I hear the polo stands are vicious of late

and certainly you've never tried to join a Harley fan club as a Vespa owner - brutal.

not sure between terns and herons - don't join a serious birding group.

drone owners will guffaw at your cute little remote control airplane.
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Old 05-28-20, 06:16 AM
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I think we need to resurrect this thread; it's been awhile since on the front page:

WE'RE GOING TO YELL AT YOU
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OP, i see you have a new name. What is Eagle Sand Cycling?
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Snobs? Cyclists?
You have not been around the tennis, golf, boating or swimming pool crowd lately.

and I hear the polo stands are vicious of late

and certainly you've never tried to join a Harley fan club as a Vespa owner - brutal.

not sure between terns and herons - don't join a serious birding group.

drone owners will guffaw at your cute little remote control airplane.

Or on the model railroading forums, where the percent or two of the membership who work for an actual railroad regard all the other members as "just playing with toys".
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Old 05-28-20, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglesandcycling View Post
I see your point but it just seems a bit more in this sport..maybe im totally wrong tho
Cycling is a sport for people with a bit of disposable income, like golf the arrogance is north of the greater population IMHO.
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Old 05-28-20, 12:36 PM
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On a more serious note, will I lose a full watt if I lift a finger as a mini-wave acknowledgement while in the drops with elbows and shoulders tucked? On a long ride I might have to finger wave 100 times. This could add up.
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Old 05-28-20, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by taco2ewsday View Post
Cycling is a sport for people with a bit of disposable income, like golf the arrogance is north of the greater population IMHO.
I'm a cyclist and a golfer, and I don't feel elitist or arrogant doing either, and I wave or head nod to just about everyone I see when cycling: cyclists, runners, dog walkers, skateboarders, etc, because there's a kinship with all of us just getting out and enjoying the outdoors. But if I were to think in that "arrogant" vein, I definitely feel more self-pride when I'm cycling, than when golfing. Maybe that's because golf is such an easy-on-the-body sport, and cycling, for me, is a masochistic sufferfest.
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR View Post
On a more serious note, will I lose a full watt if I lift a finger as a mini-wave acknowledgement while in the drops with elbows and shoulders tucked? On a long ride I might have to finger wave 100 times. This could add up.
Get some finger cots they're like little tiny skin suits.
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Originally Posted by eaglesandcycling View Post
I see your point but it just seems a bit more in this sport..maybe im totally wrong tho
Originally Posted by Riveting View Post
I'm a cyclist and a golfer, and I don't feel elitist or arrogant doing either, and I wave or head nod to just about everyone I see when cycling: cyclists, runners, dog walkers, skateboarders, etc, because there's a kinship with all of us just getting out and enjoying the outdoors. But if I were to think in that "arrogant" vein, I definitely feel more self-pride when I'm cycling, than when golfing. Maybe that's because golf is such an easy-on-the-body sport, and cycling, for me, is a masochistic sufferfest.
Maybe just a Tennessee thing
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Old 05-28-20, 02:24 PM
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OP, i see you have a new name. What is Eagle Sand Cycling?
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I used the word Drone in a post - here come those arrogant drone dealerships ads,
always trying to upgrade my lifestyle,
when they should already have profiled me to know
I'm plenty high on my current hobbies,
which do not include things with motors!
Mowing the lawn is Not a hobby.
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