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Addiction LXXVI

Old 10-24-19, 08:35 AM
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Of course. Stephen is a Facebook star. I had to give him some publicity. This is his second mouse that I know of.
Oh, Facebook. Of course!
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Old 10-24-19, 08:48 AM
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Seat bags are way too aero.

That's to keep your speed manageable on descents, right?
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So, aside from simply liking to work out and compete, the main reason I have been a lifelong endurance sports geek is to treat pretty significant anxiety and depression, which is a lot worse in the winter. This fall, using the new smart trainer during the week and tracking a.m. heart rate variability, I think I've found a level of training stress that makes the blues go away and should be sustainable through most of a reasonable training cycle.
I'm similar, but didn't really realize it until a lull in activity had me in the dumps and questioning what "normal" was; I've since become convinced that, in general, physical exertion is a significant component of mental and emotional well-being. We're animals that were made to work, and if we don't work, **** goes haywire. You also see this in domesticated dogs.

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Makes me more positive about a power measurement system for the road bike, but I'm still ambivalent and sticker shocked. Plus, I might get fit, enter a race, and hurt myself.
Keep an eye on Power2Max in the upcoming season. Right now, and depending upon your BB, you might be able to set yourself up for $490, plus any applicable tax/shipping, but they often have specials this time of the year. For full power (not an estimation based on doubling a single side), this is still the best deal that I'm aware of. If you need new rings, get some Praxis from them at the same time - at ~$100 for the set, they're a good deal.
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A few years ago in Philly some moron hit an abandoned overhead rail bridge and then drove for several miles through city streets with the peeled back top of the semi trailer dragging behind him. IIRC, some early morning jogger or dog walker called the police, who finally stopped him. I couldn't believe it when I saw the story on the morning news.
Gotta finish that delivery if he wants to get paid so as to hire an attorney, man.
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Old 10-24-19, 08:53 AM
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Plus, I might get fit, enter a race, and hurt myself.
Meh, sports injuries usually buff right out.
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Speaking of Power2Max, I was using a single side Stages but now have a P2M. The odd thing that I found was that I consistently run 52% left and 48% right. Considering that I'm right handed, I assumed that my right leg would be stronger than my left. Probably time for those dreaded one-leg pedaling drills.
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Old 10-24-19, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
Speaking of Power2Max, I was using a single side Stages but now have a P2M. The odd thing that I found was that I consistently run 52% left and 48% right. Considering that I'm right handed, I assumed that my right leg would be stronger than my left. Probably time for those dreaded one-leg pedaling drills.
Everything that I've read says that that kind of imbalance is nothing/normal and that, even if it were worse, evening it out wouldn't necessarily be beneficial. Unless you're nursing yourself back from something like a knee injury, balance is just a nice-to-know.

Oh, and handedness doesn't indicate dominant leg. One suggested way of finding your dominant leg is to put your feet together and have someone give you a push forward (without you knowing the exact timing) - the leg that you stick out to keep yourself from hitting the deck is your dominant leg.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I'm similar, but didn't really realize it until a lull in activity had me in the dumps and questioning what "normal" was; I've since become convinced that, in general, physical exertion is a significant component of mental and emotional well-being. We're animals that were made to work, and if we don't work, **** goes haywire. You also see this in domesticated dogs.
I agree, but think more about rats and wheels. For a middle school project, my daughter and I put a cyclometer on her tiny Chinese hamster's wheel, and damn if that little ****er didn't run about 9 km a night! Imagine what he could have done with performance parameter feedback and video of a bunch of his virtual buds in hamster Watopia!

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Keep an eye on Power2Max in the upcoming season. Right now, and depending upon your BB, you might be able to set yourself up for $490, plus any applicable tax/shipping, but they often have specials this time of the year. For full power (not an estimation based on doubling a single side), this is still the best deal that I'm aware of. If you need new rings, get some Praxis from them at the same time - at ~$100 for the set, they're a good deal.
I guess I was asking for it.
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I don't have a powermeter, but honestly the r/l difference is probably unnecessary in MOST cases. It's probably more useful to track recovery from an injury that preferentially affected one leg. One of my patients works for Stages and he agrees with me, but says consumers want double sided.
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I don't have a powermeter, but honestly the r/l difference is probably unnecessary in MOST cases. It's probably more useful to track recovery from an injury that preferentially affected one leg. One of my patients works for Stages and he agrees with me, but says consumers want double sided.
I still have some medial quad atrophy on the left from an old L3 disc fragment. I haven't gotten on a leg press lately, but I bet it's still weak. I guess one could just put the load cell on the weak side...
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Speaking power meters, does anyone have a clue as to which one would fit my new Cannondale Topsoil? I haven't looked at power meters in a while and compatibility is always a pain. It has FSA cranks I think, with some weird sized chainrings (42/30 or somethinf like that). Four bolts too, if I recall correctly.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I don't have a powermeter, but honestly the r/l difference is probably unnecessary in MOST cases. It's probably more useful to track recovery from an injury that preferentially affected one leg. One of my patients works for Stages and he agrees with me, but says consumers want double sided.
Yeah, the difference isn't exactly necessary, but price being equal, I still want total power rather than estimated total power. A lot of people seem to have a balance drift at some point in exertion curve, so that could, in theory, lead to some wonkiness with the numbers and the power zones based off of them.
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Woo hoo - I have the Best Premium Saddle Bag, which is surely better than merely awesome. Eat your heart out, @DougRNS
if you needed a survey to tell you, it can't be all that. I knew my saddle bag was awesome and didn't need no stinkin survey. Just like the awesome shovel.

Come to think of it, the awesome shovel is also lightweight and aero!
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In regards to saddle bags:




Nice fluted seatpost on the steel rig. Is it awesome?
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Nice fluted seatpost on the steel rig. Is it awesome?
Looks like the Campagnolo Super Record in all its neoclassical glory!
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Speaking power meters, does anyone have a clue as to which one would fit my new Cannondale Topsoil? I haven't looked at power meters in a while and compatibility is always a pain. It has FSA cranks I think, with some weird sized chainrings (42/30 or somethinf like that). Four bolts too, if I recall correctly.
Pedal-based ftw?
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So, aside from simply liking to work out and compete, the main reason I have been a lifelong endurance sports geek is to treat pretty significant anxiety and depression, which is a lot worse in the winter. This fall, using the new smart trainer during the week and tracking a.m. heart rate variability, I think I've found a level of training stress that makes the blues go away and should be sustainable through most of a reasonable training cycle.

Makes me more positive about a power measurement system for the road bike, but I'm still ambivalent and sticker shocked. Plus, I might get fit, enter a race, and hurt myself.
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In a crit, no one can hear you scream.
I seem to remember them coming over to look at me as I moaned and bled, though.
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I might go with these on the TT bike.
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I might go with these on the TT bike.
Nice. Pedals it will be if I take the plunge. The bike has very short chainstays and won't tolerate any chain line issues.
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Pedal-based ftw?
They require special cleats, don't they? What do I do when I want to ride my other bicycles?
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They require special cleats, don't they? What do I do when I want to ride my other bicycles?
Yes but some use "regular" road type (typically Look Keo style) cleats.
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I might go with these on the TT bike.
One of my club-mates has these Assioma PM pedals and is generally pleased with them.
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
Speaking power meters, does anyone have a clue as to which one would fit my new Cannondale Topsoil? I haven't looked at power meters in a while and compatibility is always a pain. It has FSA cranks I think, with some weird sized chainrings (42/30 or somethinf like that). Four bolts too, if I recall correctly.
Those some small chain rings! FWIW, P2M is now doing spiders for MTBs, so that might be the route to go if your BCD is smaller than 110. No idea on chainring compatibility or if you'd have to replace them at the same time, but they are doing spider drillings for Shimano 4-hole assym.
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Those Faveros are cheap-ish, and allegedly Look compatible. Tempting.
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