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Never had an issue with Stan's tape. It's thin, very strong, and it's never going to slip(like vinyl rim strips).
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I wouldn't run tires or wheels which required carrying bead jacks, straps and such things while on a ride, nor would I ride a combination which is brutally difficult to service in the field.
Why bother when there are so many good tire and rim combinations which go on so easily by hand or with levers?
-Tim-
Why bother when there are so many good tire and rim combinations which go on so easily by hand or with levers?
-Tim-
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I've had Velox tape rip while riding. Luckily it was just before a long DH. Velox tape isn't horrible, but it can make tire changes a PITA on tubeless compatible rims.
Never had an issue with Stan's tape. It's thin, very strong, and it's never going to slip(like vinyl rim strips).
Never had an issue with Stan's tape. It's thin, very strong, and it's never going to slip(like vinyl rim strips).
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much sympathy for the original poster. i've been riding some 13 year old campy wheels with GP4000s that last few years, and i can not get the tires on. i've tried many times and failed over and over. i don't even carry a tube with me anymore because i know i can't change it. luckily, the 4000's have been amazing, and i only get a flat every 2-3 years. when i do, i put on a hat and sunglasses and take the wheel into my local shop for some help. it makes me feel a lot better when i see some mechanic kid really struggle with it for a while (but they eventually get it on).
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much sympathy for the original poster. i've been riding some 13 year old campy wheels with GP4000s that last few years, and i can not get the tires on. i've tried many times and failed over and over. i don't even carry a tube with me anymore because i know i can't change it. luckily, the 4000's have been amazing, and i only get a flat every 2-3 years. when i do, i put on a hat and sunglasses and take the wheel into my local shop for some help. it makes me feel a lot better when i see some mechanic kid really struggle with it for a while (but they eventually get it on).
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much sympathy for the original poster. i've been riding some 13 year old campy wheels with GP4000s that last few years, and i can not get the tires on. i've tried many times and failed over and over. i don't even carry a tube with me anymore because i know i can't change it. luckily, the 4000's have been amazing, and i only get a flat every 2-3 years. when i do, i put on a hat and sunglasses and take the wheel into my local shop for some help. it makes me feel a lot better when i see some mechanic kid really struggle with it for a while (but they eventually get it on).
Usually baby powder / talcum powder is all that I need, but for some reason (I suspect it's the tackiness of the rubber compound used) that baby powder is no longer enough. I used olive oil on one set of tires, and soapy water on another, because that's all I had handy, and both of those cut down down the friction between the rim and the tire just enough, to eventually pop the tires on.
Someone else suggested bubble-blowing fluid, I'm sure that would work as well.
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I wouldn't run tires or wheels which required carrying bead jacks, straps and such things while on a ride, nor would I ride a combination which is brutally difficult to service in the field.
Why bother when there are so many good tire and rim combinations which go on so easily by hand or with levers?
-Tim-
Why bother when there are so many good tire and rim combinations which go on so easily by hand or with levers?
-Tim-
There is a balance.
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Been riding for 50 years... yes I know I'm older than dirt thank you. However, until the 6 years ago changing a tire in the field was a 5-10 minute job. Then I purchased my first carbon bike with disc wheels. I haven't been able to mount tires in the field since. That using all kinds of different tires a couple of different wheel sets and now carbon wheels. I just don't have the strength in my hands that I did years ago. In the beginning I took a bead jack with me plus other supplies to help. My MTB has had tubeless setup for the past 18 years and has never had a nonfield repairable tire. So last year I put all the tools back in the shop, purchased tubeless rim tape, Stans valves, Stans sealant, Pro One tires and the all important plug kit. Best cycling decision I have made. If the tire is so bad that the sealant or plug can't fix it a simple tube repair wouldn't either. So now I ride without all the worry, and unmount, mount tires back in the shop where I have all the tools needed to make it an easy job. Go Tubeless and you won't go back! Good luck.
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https://www.jensonusa.com/Stans-NoTu...SABEgK76PD_BwE
Or if you have Amazon Prime
https://www.amazon.com/Stans-No-Tube...a-372558679916
Or if you have Amazon Prime
https://www.amazon.com/Stans-No-Tube...a-372558679916
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I'm thinking some of this is due to the somewhat recent (from historical perspective) migration to wider rims being used for road tires. A 14c vs eg. a 21c rim has to have an impact if, for argument's sake, you need to get the same 25mm tire on either? The center (deepest) channel inside the rim is that much further from the rims edge for the 21c rim vs 15c rim, over which you need to get the tire bead, right?
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For kicks and giggles, I removed the tires on both rims. The rear one came off with not too much effort. I used my Kool Tire tool and it was much easier to put back on. The front tire, wouldn't come unbeaded with the strength of Thor. I finally removed one side and took the tube out, but the other side was like it was glued on. I tried several MacGyver tricks, none worked. I finally sprayed some Simple Green inside the rim and pushed as hard as my thumbs would allow and boom, they finally came off. I have an extra mini pump holder and I think I'm going to add it to my bottle holder strap and keep a Kool Tire Tool with me on all my rides. I feel confident I can get the tires on the rims, but removing them could be a huge challenge. I am going to also look into replacing the tape to see if that helps.
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For kicks and giggles, I removed the tires on both rims. The rear one came off with not too much effort. I used my Kool Tire tool and it was much easier to put back on. The front tire, wouldn't come unbeaded with the strength of Thor. I finally removed one side and took the tube out, but the other side was like it was glued on. I tried several MacGyver tricks, none worked. I finally sprayed some Simple Green inside the rim and pushed as hard as my thumbs would allow and boom, they finally came off. I have an extra mini pump holder and I think I'm going to add it to my bottle holder strap and keep a Kool Tire Tool with me on all my rides. I feel confident I can get the tires on the rims, but removing them could be a huge challenge. I am going to also look into replacing the tape to see if that helps.