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Co-op find
While I’ve found a lot of stuff at my local co-op, I’ve never found anything quite as cool as this...a 1950s Surre truing stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The patent was filed in 1947 and issued in 1950. As I told a friend of mine, there is a high likelihood that the atoms of aluminum in this truing stand spend some time over parts of Europe. I have a rim that needs to be replaced so I decided to use it.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand wasn’t really made for quick release so I made some adaptations to hold the wheel down in the stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
In the process of swapping spokes
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand isn’t a good as a Park and it could use a base but it seems to work. Tomorrow is the real test.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The patent was filed in 1947 and issued in 1950. As I told a friend of mine, there is a high likelihood that the atoms of aluminum in this truing stand spend some time over parts of Europe. I have a rim that needs to be replaced so I decided to use it.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand wasn’t really made for quick release so I made some adaptations to hold the wheel down in the stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
In the process of swapping spokes
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand isn’t a good as a Park and it could use a base but it seems to work. Tomorrow is the real test.
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I've been using one of those along with a Campy dishing tool for about 30yrs now. I got a couple big cotter pins from Ace that slip into the QR axles and clamp down on them. I just clamp the base of the stand in a vice. Works just fine. I scribed some lines on the base at the setting for the four width hubs I use and just move the left side over to the appropriate mark for the wheel I'm truing. Sorta Tab A / Slot B stuff.
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While I’ve found a lot of stuff at my local co-op, I’ve never found anything quite as cool as this...a 1950s Surre truing stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The patent was filed in 1947 and issued in 1950. As I told a friend of mine, there is a high likelihood that the atoms of aluminum in this truing stand spend some time over parts of Europe. I have a rim that needs to be replaced so I decided to use it.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand wasn’t really made for quick release so I made some adaptations to hold the wheel down in the stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
In the process of swapping spokes
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand isn’t a good as a Park and it could use a base but it seems to work. Tomorrow is the real test.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The patent was filed in 1947 and issued in 1950. As I told a friend of mine, there is a high likelihood that the atoms of aluminum in this truing stand spend some time over parts of Europe. I have a rim that needs to be replaced so I decided to use it.
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand wasn’t really made for quick release so I made some adaptations to hold the wheel down in the stand
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
In the process of swapping spokes
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The stand isn’t a good as a Park and it could use a base but it seems to work. Tomorrow is the real test.
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Now you need to locate a Surre nipple grip to go with it.
They look like aluminum wing nuts.
Tried to find an image of one just now without success. Perhaps another member...
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Now you need to locate a Surre nipple grip to go with it.
They look like aluminum wing nuts.
Tried to find an image of one just now without success. Perhaps another member...
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Super cool! There's definitely a market out there for vintage shop tools like that, I wouldn't doubt if it re-sold for as much as a TS-2 goes for new if you list it in the right place. Not sure if eBay would pull a number that high, but maybe the CABE forums would?
The one I found and re-sold is not quite as cool, way more pedestrian/utilitarian, it was probably from the late 80s. Had just minor surface rust and gunk that came right off. Re-solve to a C&V enthusiast north of ATL.
The one I found and re-sold is not quite as cool, way more pedestrian/utilitarian, it was probably from the late 80s. Had just minor surface rust and gunk that came right off. Re-solve to a C&V enthusiast north of ATL.
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I saw one of the OP stands go up a little while ago on the 'bay.. I looked up the patent and it was fun reading that.
Looks similar to a Minoura I sold long ago like in this thread.
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I thought this may be a bike. This is so much better. I'm surprised that the coop even gave it up. Nice stand. I like the fact that it is cast aluminum. And has a way to hold the axle in place.
While the Park stand is the benchmark, I think that all you need is two sturdy legs to hold the wheel and a sturdy support for the rim indicators. Then you can either flip the wheel or use a dishing tool to be sure the rim is centered.
I have a Minoura truing stand and while I have built and trued many wheels on it, my next stand would be something like this or a Musson type.
While the Park stand is the benchmark, I think that all you need is two sturdy legs to hold the wheel and a sturdy support for the rim indicators. Then you can either flip the wheel or use a dishing tool to be sure the rim is centered.
I have a Minoura truing stand and while I have built and trued many wheels on it, my next stand would be something like this or a Musson type.
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The Minoura stand is better than it looks, I had one outside for years and still have one on the bench in the basement. They will even flex apart to accommodate modern thru-axle Boost hubs, just by sliding a long screwdriver through the big hollow axle.
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I saw one of the OP stands go up a little while ago on the 'bay.. I looked up the patent and it was fun reading that.
Looks similar to a Minoura I sold long ago like in this thread.
Looks similar to a Minoura I sold long ago like in this thread.
That said, I took time to look up the OP's Surre stand. It looks like two sold recently on eBay, one sold for best-offer on a BIN when listed at $150 + $20 ship, and the other auction closed with 1 bid at $129 + $30 ship.
I Bought my TS-2 a few years back on the 'bay from someone in Tampa for $139.70 shipped. It was in exceptional complete shape, too. Looked like it came out of a Play-it-Again Sports store that rarely, if ever, worked on wheels. I suspect the OP could get more for their Surre stand, but that's a really cool piece, the retrogrouch in me would keep it
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I had used a Hozan stand for so long that I had a hard time working on my Minoura and discounted the Park because they didn't swivel side to side. Weird I know, but I have found I need that swivel to be comfortable with a stand. As soon as I saw an HKC come up on CL a decade ago I grabbed it and never looked back.
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I love this... I came across a vintage truing stand that used to have its home in Westside Joe’s bike shop in Alameda, part of a tools lot. I have no idea who made it, but it’s a solid piece, and attractive at that.
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That is attractive and really looks like it was made by a machinist or someone who dabbled in it... a lot.
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Something tells me "nipple grip" may not be the best subject to Google while on a work server.
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Regarding the OP's stand, back when I had a paper route I used to hang out in a little mower-and-bike shop and that was the house truing stand. I learned on one of those but thought it clumsy even then. The Park was a revelation when it arrived.