AL Head Tube Cracked!
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AL Head Tube Cracked!
While cleaning my bike the other day I discovered this...
FWIW, the frame is a 7005 aluminum, circa 1995 Crestone Peak Hard-tail with an AMP fork. Crestone Peak existed for about 10 minutes, not that I'd expect much manufacturer support on a 15 year-old bike.
Suggestions?
FWIW, the frame is a 7005 aluminum, circa 1995 Crestone Peak Hard-tail with an AMP fork. Crestone Peak existed for about 10 minutes, not that I'd expect much manufacturer support on a 15 year-old bike.
Suggestions?
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yep, toast.
time for a new ride. Be picky and buy a bike that doesn't have the same issues, if any, your cracked one has.
time for a new ride. Be picky and buy a bike that doesn't have the same issues, if any, your cracked one has.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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If Santa brings you coal, instead of a new bike,
I think you could continue to ride that bike for some time.
I don't think it will lead to a catastrophic failure where
you shoot forward off the bike to kiss the earth.
But, if you are like me, any excuse is a good excuse to buy a new bike.
I think you could continue to ride that bike for some time.
I don't think it will lead to a catastrophic failure where
you shoot forward off the bike to kiss the earth.
But, if you are like me, any excuse is a good excuse to buy a new bike.
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My daughter's 6 year old Specialized Allez developed a crack like that and Specialized replaced it free of charge. Lots of frames have a lifetime warranty to the original owner.
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If Santa brings you coal, instead of a new bike,
I think you could continue to ride that bike for some time.
I don't think it will lead to a catastrophic failure where
you shoot forward off the bike to kiss the earth.
But, if you are like me, any excuse is a good excuse to buy a new bike.
I think you could continue to ride that bike for some time.
I don't think it will lead to a catastrophic failure where
you shoot forward off the bike to kiss the earth.
But, if you are like me, any excuse is a good excuse to buy a new bike.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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My Specialized Rockhopper developed the identical crack. They gave me a replacement frame 12 years after original purchase. Yer frame is copulated. Re-place
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New frame. It might last for a long time before the crack spreads, or the crack might suddenly wrap around to the weld and the cause the headtube to fall off and send you underneath a bus. 15 years is a reasonable life span for a lightweight frame.
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While cleaning my bike the other day I discovered this...
FWIW, the frame is a 7005 aluminum, circa 1995 Crestone Peak Hard-tail with an AMP fork. Crestone Peak existed for about 10 minutes, not that I'd expect much manufacturer support on a 15 year-old bike.
Suggestions?
FWIW, the frame is a 7005 aluminum, circa 1995 Crestone Peak Hard-tail with an AMP fork. Crestone Peak existed for about 10 minutes, not that I'd expect much manufacturer support on a 15 year-old bike.
Suggestions?
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Not what the frame cost but what it would cost to replace it... a similar era good quality aluminum frame would be cheap used, and a modern basic frame (likely similar quality) can cost very little as well... Maybe $300 for a non-branded or lesser known brand or $300 for one with a brand name on it.
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If you want to keep this going as a "B" bike you can do a down 'n dirty ugly repair with a $1.50 hose clamp. Knock out the upper cup, run some acetone into the crack to clean it, then apply a hose clamp to tighten it closed.
Unfortunately the super glue won't be strong enough so you'll have to leave the clamp on permanantly (I didn't say it would be pretty). If you want to do a nicer job, replace the clamp with a machined SS collar with a slight interference fit and a wall thickness of about 0.060" to 0.080". Consider making 2 of the collars, and add one to the bottom to shore that end up.
Also after it's clamped and glued, and the glue has set have someone ream the headtube to spec. It's likely the ID is at the low end of the range and excess interference in the cups fit contributed to the failure (that and age).
Unfortunately the super glue won't be strong enough so you'll have to leave the clamp on permanantly (I didn't say it would be pretty). If you want to do a nicer job, replace the clamp with a machined SS collar with a slight interference fit and a wall thickness of about 0.060" to 0.080". Consider making 2 of the collars, and add one to the bottom to shore that end up.
Also after it's clamped and glued, and the glue has set have someone ream the headtube to spec. It's likely the ID is at the low end of the range and excess interference in the cups fit contributed to the failure (that and age).
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Aluminum has a finite number of flexes before it cracks. If you have had it for 15 years I would say you have gotten your money's worth. Even if you have it welded it will crack somewhere else.
Get a new one.
Get a new one.
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Unlikely it would be a 'downgrade.' The $100 Taiwanese frame today is as good or better than the mid-quality aluminum from 15 years ago. For $100 you will likely get a butted, shaped tubing aluminum frame that has been heat treated and possibly powder coated. Lighter and stronger that what you have, probably. Aluminum from yesteryear had a bit of a reputation for cracking but not so much any more. I'm not saying your repair plan won't work, just that you get a lot ofr your $100 these days. And I am not generally of the mind that 'newer' = 'better' but in this case it likely does.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'd actually been thinking about using structural adhesive along with some AL sheeting and a hose clamp. I've recently built a car with that stuff, so why not a bike?
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Apparently you don't want to hear that the frame should be replaced so go ahead with whatever repair you deem suitable and safe. If it were mine, it would be gone immediately. I can't believe that frame has any particular and superior features that can't be replicated in a newer, probably better made, frame at reasonable cost.
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durafix
if you want to try to save the frame, this might work in combo with drilling a hole to stop the crack.
https://durafix.com/
https://durafix.com/
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I started disassembling the head-set tonight - thought it best to start a new thread on my issue there, as it's more of a generic repair question - here's the direct link to it...
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...3#post11876993
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on an airplane, you'd drill a hole at the end of the crack to stop it from propagating and then glue on a doubler plate, while holding it in place with rivets.
not that you'd be able to translate that directly to bikes, but the idea isn't so different.
not that you'd be able to translate that directly to bikes, but the idea isn't so different.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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I think it translates pretty well for this. It's more or less the approach I'm considering - structural adhesive with mechanical fasteners as secondary.