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10-11-12, 08:12 AM
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I bought these Smith & Wesson shooting glasses for $6.99. I haven't been out at night with them yet, but they should be good.
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Buy some clear replacement lenses for your Flak Jacket on ebay. Clear, non OEM lenses are <$20. Or buy some cheapo clear safety glasses at the local big box store.
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10-11-12, 11:01 AM
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10-11-12, 12:06 PM
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I work in the optical business in the United States and let me offer some professional advice....(For the record, I do not work for Oakley)
-Impact resistance with cycling is extremely important for obvious reasons. "Real" Oakley lenses are made of Lexan/Polycarbonate which is the most impact resistant material available for ophthalmic lenses. Fake Oakleys typically use an acetate or CR39 plastic material which explodes upon impact. Also, the frames that Oakley makes are also designed to withstand damage during crashes or impact. The frames themselves are not made of polycarbonate, but they are made of a zylo/plastic material that will keep you safe during a crash. Oakley hinges, temples and bezels are designed with impact resistance in mind. On a cheaper frame, the bezel may be made slightly rounded or smaller which doesn't keep the lens in place during impact. The result is that if the lens miraculously doesn't shatter, it will dislodge straight back towards your eye and cause serious damage to your Cornea.
-Safety Frames and Shooting Frames do indeed peform well for cycling. These sorts of frames are stamped "Z87-2" on the temples and the lenses typically are marked with a PS+ near the temporal edge. These markings designate that they pass the FDA's impact resistance testing for industrial safety of high velocity projectiles. The only drawbacks to these cheaper alternatives is many don't have anti-fogging or anti-reflective coatings on them. Also the lenses are typically "stamped" which is more prone to aberrations versus Oakley lenses which are surfaced using traditional manufacturing methods and have far less birefringence than stamped lenses.
-Coating technology may look the same on fakes in terms of the residual color in the reflective, front-side mirror coating, but the coating stack is not the same. Most Oakley coatings are 10 layers, each side, including a more scratch resistant base hard-coating. The hard coating will be less prone to hairline and deep scratches. Also, the top coat on most Oakley coatings is made of oleo-phobic materials which repels dirt, oil and moisture, making the lenses much easier to clean while out riding. Some Oakley lenses feature an anti-fog, oleo-phobic top coat which prevents the lenses from steaming up when you stop at traffic lights.
Sorry to go full-on lens nerd on this board, but when I read these sorts of comments on here I just had to offer some facts. Comparing fake Oakleys to real ones is similar to comparing a Cervelo to a Huffy.
-Impact resistance with cycling is extremely important for obvious reasons. "Real" Oakley lenses are made of Lexan/Polycarbonate which is the most impact resistant material available for ophthalmic lenses. Fake Oakleys typically use an acetate or CR39 plastic material which explodes upon impact. Also, the frames that Oakley makes are also designed to withstand damage during crashes or impact. The frames themselves are not made of polycarbonate, but they are made of a zylo/plastic material that will keep you safe during a crash. Oakley hinges, temples and bezels are designed with impact resistance in mind. On a cheaper frame, the bezel may be made slightly rounded or smaller which doesn't keep the lens in place during impact. The result is that if the lens miraculously doesn't shatter, it will dislodge straight back towards your eye and cause serious damage to your Cornea.
-Safety Frames and Shooting Frames do indeed peform well for cycling. These sorts of frames are stamped "Z87-2" on the temples and the lenses typically are marked with a PS+ near the temporal edge. These markings designate that they pass the FDA's impact resistance testing for industrial safety of high velocity projectiles. The only drawbacks to these cheaper alternatives is many don't have anti-fogging or anti-reflective coatings on them. Also the lenses are typically "stamped" which is more prone to aberrations versus Oakley lenses which are surfaced using traditional manufacturing methods and have far less birefringence than stamped lenses.
-Coating technology may look the same on fakes in terms of the residual color in the reflective, front-side mirror coating, but the coating stack is not the same. Most Oakley coatings are 10 layers, each side, including a more scratch resistant base hard-coating. The hard coating will be less prone to hairline and deep scratches. Also, the top coat on most Oakley coatings is made of oleo-phobic materials which repels dirt, oil and moisture, making the lenses much easier to clean while out riding. Some Oakley lenses feature an anti-fog, oleo-phobic top coat which prevents the lenses from steaming up when you stop at traffic lights.
Sorry to go full-on lens nerd on this board, but when I read these sorts of comments on here I just had to offer some facts. Comparing fake Oakleys to real ones is similar to comparing a Cervelo to a Huffy.
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10-11-12, 01:19 PM
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I got the fake red and white Radars from a Taiwanese seller on flea bay last year, honestly I was very disappointed with fit and quality. They r sitting in a drawer..unused, not even once.
Next day I bit the bullet and ordered the real ones. There it goes $40 to trash can.
Next day I bit the bullet and ordered the real ones. There it goes $40 to trash can.
10-11-12, 01:35 PM
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The other thing is....
Lots of fake products you can buy direct from China, like Nike products, actually come from Nike's China-based manufacturing facilities. They are surplus goods that are smuggled out or allowed to be sold and the chances are that the product you get here in the States is very similar to the real, over-priced version you buy at Foot Locker. With Oakley products, they produce most of them in Tustin, California at their US headquarters. They are made here so it's nearly impossible for the fake Oakleys to be surplus authentic Oakley product.
Lots of fake products you can buy direct from China, like Nike products, actually come from Nike's China-based manufacturing facilities. They are surplus goods that are smuggled out or allowed to be sold and the chances are that the product you get here in the States is very similar to the real, over-priced version you buy at Foot Locker. With Oakley products, they produce most of them in Tustin, California at their US headquarters. They are made here so it's nearly impossible for the fake Oakleys to be surplus authentic Oakley product.
10-11-12, 01:40 PM
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10-11-12, 01:45 PM
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I feel the need to say that even though I show ioffer as an option, I personally dont wear fake ones. the fit and quality not is not as good. If you are looking for something that is inexpensive though, I see it as a good option. I am to vain to wear fake ones.
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From a safety standpoint, the fake ones are not a good option. Safety glasses at Home Depot or shooting specific frames would actually protect your eyes in the event of a crash.
10-11-12, 02:51 PM
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Man, I wish I could get ANY prescription shades for less than $150-200...
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I don't know if this was brought up or not (I haven't read each reply) but being FLAK Jackets, can't you just buy the replacement lens of your choice for about $40? And if you know someone in Law Enforcement or Military, they can probably get them for half that for you. I've had my Half Jackets for 7 years I think, and they are still going strong. I have bought various lenses over the years but the frames are doing fine.
10-11-12, 04:14 PM
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I work in the optical business in the United States and let me offer some professional advice....(For the record, I do not work for Oakley)
-Impact resistance with cycling is extremely important for obvious reasons. "Real" Oakley lenses are made of Lexan/Polycarbonate which is the most impact resistant material available for ophthalmic lenses. Fake Oakleys typically use an acetate or CR39 plastic material which explodes upon impact. Also, the frames that Oakley makes are also designed to withstand damage during crashes or impact. The frames themselves are not made of polycarbonate, but they are made of a zylo/plastic material that will keep you safe during a crash. Oakley hinges, temples and bezels are designed with impact resistance in mind. On a cheaper frame, the bezel may be made slightly rounded or smaller which doesn't keep the lens in place during impact. The result is that if the lens miraculously doesn't shatter, it will dislodge straight back towards your eye and cause serious damage to your Cornea.
-Safety Frames and Shooting Frames do indeed peform well for cycling. These sorts of frames are stamped "Z87-2" on the temples and the lenses typically are marked with a PS+ near the temporal edge. These markings designate that they pass the FDA's impact resistance testing for industrial safety of high velocity projectiles. The only drawbacks to these cheaper alternatives is many don't have anti-fogging or anti-reflective coatings on them. Also the lenses are typically "stamped" which is more prone to aberrations versus Oakley lenses which are surfaced using traditional manufacturing methods and have far less birefringence than stamped lenses.
-Coating technology may look the same on fakes in terms of the residual color in the reflective, front-side mirror coating, but the coating stack is not the same. Most Oakley coatings are 10 layers, each side, including a more scratch resistant base hard-coating. The hard coating will be less prone to hairline and deep scratches. Also, the top coat on most Oakley coatings is made of oleo-phobic materials which repels dirt, oil and moisture, making the lenses much easier to clean while out riding. Some Oakley lenses feature an anti-fog, oleo-phobic top coat which prevents the lenses from steaming up when you stop at traffic lights.
Sorry to go full-on lens nerd on this board, but when I read these sorts of comments on here I just had to offer some facts. Comparing fake Oakleys to real ones is similar to comparing a Cervelo to a Huffy.
-Impact resistance with cycling is extremely important for obvious reasons. "Real" Oakley lenses are made of Lexan/Polycarbonate which is the most impact resistant material available for ophthalmic lenses. Fake Oakleys typically use an acetate or CR39 plastic material which explodes upon impact. Also, the frames that Oakley makes are also designed to withstand damage during crashes or impact. The frames themselves are not made of polycarbonate, but they are made of a zylo/plastic material that will keep you safe during a crash. Oakley hinges, temples and bezels are designed with impact resistance in mind. On a cheaper frame, the bezel may be made slightly rounded or smaller which doesn't keep the lens in place during impact. The result is that if the lens miraculously doesn't shatter, it will dislodge straight back towards your eye and cause serious damage to your Cornea.
-Safety Frames and Shooting Frames do indeed peform well for cycling. These sorts of frames are stamped "Z87-2" on the temples and the lenses typically are marked with a PS+ near the temporal edge. These markings designate that they pass the FDA's impact resistance testing for industrial safety of high velocity projectiles. The only drawbacks to these cheaper alternatives is many don't have anti-fogging or anti-reflective coatings on them. Also the lenses are typically "stamped" which is more prone to aberrations versus Oakley lenses which are surfaced using traditional manufacturing methods and have far less birefringence than stamped lenses.
-Coating technology may look the same on fakes in terms of the residual color in the reflective, front-side mirror coating, but the coating stack is not the same. Most Oakley coatings are 10 layers, each side, including a more scratch resistant base hard-coating. The hard coating will be less prone to hairline and deep scratches. Also, the top coat on most Oakley coatings is made of oleo-phobic materials which repels dirt, oil and moisture, making the lenses much easier to clean while out riding. Some Oakley lenses feature an anti-fog, oleo-phobic top coat which prevents the lenses from steaming up when you stop at traffic lights.
Sorry to go full-on lens nerd on this board, but when I read these sorts of comments on here I just had to offer some facts. Comparing fake Oakleys to real ones is similar to comparing a Cervelo to a Huffy.
10-11-12, 06:14 PM
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Not true... who would enforce such a law? Not that you have specified any particular section of law. There are no federal police. Federal law enforcement has very specific purposes. Even under Federal law the infringement is undertaken by those involved in the manufacture, sale, or distribution of those items... not by someone who possesses them.
Cops sworn at the state or local level cannot enforce federal law. They can enforce NYS Penal Law which under Article 165 does provide for prosecution of those involved in sale, manufacture, or distribution of counterfeit goods. Federal law enforcers can enforce state laws when the state has granted them those powers, but without a law to enforce they too would be without any luck.
I'm not encouraging anyone to buy counterfeit goods or to argue with you, but my initial statement stands... at least in NY.
Cops sworn at the state or local level cannot enforce federal law. They can enforce NYS Penal Law which under Article 165 does provide for prosecution of those involved in sale, manufacture, or distribution of counterfeit goods. Federal law enforcers can enforce state laws when the state has granted them those powers, but without a law to enforce they too would be without any luck.
I'm not encouraging anyone to buy counterfeit goods or to argue with you, but my initial statement stands... at least in NY.
10-11-12, 09:31 PM
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