harrisonk

I recently bought a new bike and I'm now looking for wheels. I want a carbon clincher with rim brakes that I can ride everyday. I'm thinking about 40-50mm deep with 25mm tires. I don't know anything at all about wheels as I've never ridden carbon wheels other than my Zipp disk. Can you please recommend a wheelset? I'm thinking about the Head Jet 4 Plus, Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon Exalith, Hunt 3650 Carbon Wide Aero, or Vittoria Qurano 30. No need to consider rider weight.

I'm looking to spend $2,000 or less.

Kimmo

That Exalith business is certainly an improvement to braking on carbon, as long as you can live with the noise.

ReneV

The HED Jets use alloy rims (incl. brake track), with carbon fairings.

Boerd

This is what I ordered for my new Moots RSL:
https://shop.mavic.com/en-us/cosmic-...st-rr0953.html
Mavic SL UST pro carbon

caloso

Williams System 45 Carbon Clincher Wheelset

kbarch

I was in your position recently, but I wanted tubular, and decided on HED Stinger. Not real happy with wet braking, but quite happy otherwise. Decals were a breeze to remove, too. For clinchers, HED Jets seem pretty cool, and a good deal, but downside is the soft fairing. I understand it - it makes a lot of sense in its way - but I just didn't figure it would stand up to the way I knock bikes about.

jpescatore

I'm about 3000 miles into a pair of Vision 40s on a bike with disc brakes and I am a happy customer.

jitteringjr

I don't have these specific ones (I have the Rim Comete's) but the Mavic UST tubeless is so easy to use it's hard to recommend another brand right now: the Cosmic Pro Carbon SL UST would be my pick.

eric1971

Hard to beat the value of these. A lot of wheel for the money.

caloso

I have the 58s. They roll like nobody's business. First time I used them I tried bridging to a break, started to softpedal as I normally would, and then overshot the group.

FeltF2Tarmac

Caliwild

My vote would be the FFWD F4R carbon clincher. Bombproof, very well made and have had no issues with them.

Sy Reene

Not sure if OP already made a decision, but noticed that curiously, the Hed Jets only allow a max tire inflaton up to 90 psi. Pretty odd for a clincher wheelset.

rubiksoval

I've got decal-less Hed Stingers, too!

And yes, the fairing on the Jets is surprisingly thin. I couldn't believe it when I actually saw it in person. I mean, you can squeeze the two sides inwards with hardly any pressure. I can see them getting cracked with one bad flying rock.

rubiksoval

It's because the internal rim width is so wide.

Munk69

+1 on the Mavic Cosmic Pro UST. I have them and I like them very much

Sy Reene

So, does this mean you're relegated to riding wider (eg 28mm) tires at an appropriate pressure, or riding narrower tires with a mushy feeling from underinflation? I suppose this question only relates those to heavier riders over eg. 165lbs.

rubiksoval

No. 23mm works, they just measure out to 25-26 for some tires (like Conti GP 4ks). Likewise, 25mm will measure out to 28-29mm.

The wider the internal diameter, the more the tire will splay out and the more you need to adjust pressure.

My wheels have a 17mm internal and I run 23mm Contis at 100 psi and 165 lbs. They're pretty hard at that psi and measure close to 26mm on that size rim.

ReneV

I don't really know what I'm talking about but I suspect the max pressure is due to a soft rim: at higher pressures, the spokes might slacken too much.

FlashBazbo

No, the reason is that, with the additional volume (due to the wider rim), you don't need the higher pressure to support the weight of the rider. (It's one of those scientific volume times pressure equals somethingorother equations.) Lower pressure works. It offers less rolling resistance and it's more comfy as a bonus.

ReneV

You seem to be talking about recommended pressure. I understand this is how HED also frames the issue but fact of the matter is that they say 90 psi is max pressure. Strictly speaking, this means you void your warranty if you run the wheels above 90 psi. There has to be a mechanical reason for this.

FlashBazbo

I run 2018 HED Jet Blacks, including a Black Disc. A couple of these have a max pressure of 100 psi and the other 110 psi. It's on a sticker surrounding the valve hole. But if you talk to HED, they will tell you that any pressure over 80 psi is unnecessary on these wheels. It just makes you slower. (But I still run 100 psi if I'm doing a TT on smooth roads.)

ReneV

Their online information says "90 psi max tire pressure" for all the Jet wheels, I think. They even say "max 80 psi for 23mm tubeless".

My HED Jets also say 100 psi max on a sticker. Well, at least the one I have with me does while I wait for a warranty replacement for a broken spoke on the other one ...

ReneV

The sticker on the warranty replacement I just received says 90 psi.

ARPRINCE

I recently got my HED JET 4 BLACK and it does say 90.
Sweet wheels but it is heavy. Front 702g + Rear 898g bare (no skewers, no tape, no tires and tube)





On my 2014 HED JET 4FR, I run 90 front/100 rear. I would run 80/90 on these.