Your Motivation For Becoming Car-Free or Car-Light
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I guess I want specifics about which bike lock to get. I know you can lock them, but the thieves are pretty good at cutting them off or what ever. A trailer sounds too cumbersome. I have to carry my bike down apartment stairs. I don't know what a pannier or a long tail bike are, I'm going to look those up. I'm thinking about getting this bike when I save up enough: https://www.xootr.com/folding-bicycle.html. But it's so expensive, I would die if somebody stole it. Thanks for the advice.
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I haven't gone car free yet, but I am thinking about it, mainly for financial reasons. But I have questions on how to do it. I live in a big city. How do you keep your bike from being stolen when you leave it outside the store? I have been looking at the fordable bikes, but I kind of doubt if I could get away with bringing them inside and shopping with them. I'm also thinking I would have to make a lot of trips to the store to get groceries, which will be kind of a pain because I buy a lot of cat litter, cat food and bottled water (my apartment has undrinkable water). I do not think I would be able to transport my cats to the vet on a bike, I think I would have to get a ride or take a taxi for that. My other concern is just how scary it is to ride a bike in the horrible traffic here.
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We debate all the time about why to live car-free (which is very important), but the forum was set up to discuss how to live car free so it is great to see these questions come up and I want to see those new threads.
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For me, going car light had nothing to do with going green, reducing my carbon footprint, not wanting a car, etc. and everything to do with finances. When we looked at how much we could save a month, and that the money I got from my car paid off multiple credit cards, it was a no brainer. We didn't need two cars and if I need to travel for work, they pay for it.
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For me, going car light had nothing to do with going green, reducing my carbon footprint, not wanting a car, etc. and everything to do with finances. When we looked at how much we could save a month, and that the money I got from my car paid off multiple credit cards, it was a no brainer. We didn't need two cars and if I need to travel for work, they pay for it.
I had been keeping track of how much my ex and my vehicle cost us for a while, and when it was totalled, we didn't replace it. What a savings!! In no time, I had paid off all my debt and had taken a trip to Europe.
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Especially for the newcomers to the forum ... what's your motivation for being car free or car light?
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Why are you, or were you, car-free or car-light? What motivated you to take that step?
There are threads here from people wanting encouragement to become car-free or car-light ... maybe sharing what motivated those of us who have gone that route will encourage others.
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My motivation for becoming car light was to lose weight and get fit, then maintain said fitness(which is what I'm working on now). I work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and when I'm not working I'm a single parent, so when would I otherwise find time to get exercise in?
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My motivation for being car free is lack of interest in driving a car. I was able to get my license at 14, I think. I didn't bother getting it until my mother dragged me to the DMV when I was about 18 or 19 lol. I have always been able to get around the city's i'v lived in without a car. Eventually I did get one and I got in trouble with it a couple times. In fact the only times I have been in trouble is in a car or truck. The way I look at is i'm clearly not interested or responsible enough to own a car, so why bother? I get around just fine on my bike, public transit or even a cab. I save hundreds of dollars a month and get great exercise from being car free!
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I think it started out as health reasons. I am not a go to the gym type, but if I can get 8 miles in every day and a few more here and there, that would meet where I want to be health wise. Going vegetarian is a whole other thread that I've contributed to, that also correlates to health.
The other reason is one day I just woke up and couldn't deal with people's BS anymore. Nor did I want to. So, I left a decent paying job and went to work in minimum pay/minimum stress academia back office. Made a pittance, but downsized my expenses and stress of driving in traffic and enjoyed public transport and cycling. Eventually moved out of the suburb and into town about two miles north of my office on campus. I take the bike trail and can ride home for lunch everyday. And I avoid the $800 annual parking fee so I am $800 richer.
Outside of getting to a Bestbuy or a Microcenter, I live within a 10min walk/2 minute ride of everything I need. With the cashflow that I have now, there has been discussion of getting a toy(convertible) but I am really enjoying not being part of the mainstream and like the challenge of being carfree.
When the weather is inclement or dangerous, or the cycle route is too far or dangerous, I will employ the Car2Go car sharing service. So I guess I am carfree heavy?
The other reason is one day I just woke up and couldn't deal with people's BS anymore. Nor did I want to. So, I left a decent paying job and went to work in minimum pay/minimum stress academia back office. Made a pittance, but downsized my expenses and stress of driving in traffic and enjoyed public transport and cycling. Eventually moved out of the suburb and into town about two miles north of my office on campus. I take the bike trail and can ride home for lunch everyday. And I avoid the $800 annual parking fee so I am $800 richer.
Outside of getting to a Bestbuy or a Microcenter, I live within a 10min walk/2 minute ride of everything I need. With the cashflow that I have now, there has been discussion of getting a toy(convertible) but I am really enjoying not being part of the mainstream and like the challenge of being carfree.
When the weather is inclement or dangerous, or the cycle route is too far or dangerous, I will employ the Car2Go car sharing service. So I guess I am carfree heavy?
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I think it started out as health reasons. I am not a go to the gym type, but if I can get 8 miles in every day and a few more here and there, that would meet where I want to be health wise. Going vegetarian is a whole other thread that I've contributed to, that also correlates to health.
The other reason is one day I just woke up and couldn't deal with people's BS anymore. Nor did I want to. So, I left a decent paying job and went to work in minimum pay/minimum stress academia back office. Made a pittance, but downsized my expenses and stress of driving in traffic and enjoyed public transport and cycling. Eventually moved out of the suburb and into town about two miles north of my office on campus. I take the bike trail and can ride home for lunch everyday. And I avoid the $800 annual parking fee so I am $800 richer.
Outside of getting to a Bestbuy or a Microcenter, I live within a 10min walk/2 minute ride of everything I need. With the cashflow that I have now, there has been discussion of getting a toy(convertible) but I am really enjoying not being part of the mainstream and like the challenge of being carfree.
When the weather is inclement or dangerous, or the cycle route is too far or dangerous, I will employ the Car2Go car sharing service. So I guess I am carfree heavy?
The other reason is one day I just woke up and couldn't deal with people's BS anymore. Nor did I want to. So, I left a decent paying job and went to work in minimum pay/minimum stress academia back office. Made a pittance, but downsized my expenses and stress of driving in traffic and enjoyed public transport and cycling. Eventually moved out of the suburb and into town about two miles north of my office on campus. I take the bike trail and can ride home for lunch everyday. And I avoid the $800 annual parking fee so I am $800 richer.
Outside of getting to a Bestbuy or a Microcenter, I live within a 10min walk/2 minute ride of everything I need. With the cashflow that I have now, there has been discussion of getting a toy(convertible) but I am really enjoying not being part of the mainstream and like the challenge of being carfree.
When the weather is inclement or dangerous, or the cycle route is too far or dangerous, I will employ the Car2Go car sharing service. So I guess I am carfree heavy?
My motivation for being car free is lack of interest in driving a car. I was able to get my license at 14, I think. I didn't bother getting it until my mother dragged me to the DMV when I was about 18 or 19 lol. I have always been able to get around the city's i'v lived in without a car. Eventually I did get one and I got in trouble with it a couple times. In fact the only times I have been in trouble is in a car or truck. The way I look at is i'm clearly not interested or responsible enough to own a car, so why bother? I get around just fine on my bike, public transit or even a cab. I save hundreds of dollars a month and get great exercise from being car free!
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Tasmania's Move More Sit Less program in combination with the Walk to Work day on Nov 13, did encourage me to get off the bus a stop earlier and walk a bit more. I'm hoping to do that on Friday again ... maybe even tomorrow if the bus has a fairly quick run into town.
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We've been talking in another thread about: "Why would you get a car and give up LCF?" ... so let's revisit why we would become car free or car light.
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None of that has changed for me lately, or is likely to since I do all with some regularity.
I'll be cycling to the farmer's market on Saturday, with some FG miles in-between, and flying back to the Orient as required.
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A very rough end to a long marriage, financially railroaded, facing homelessness in as little as another month potentially, losing vehicle within a week or two. No choice but to go car free right now. The choice is whether or not to stay this way once I get back on my feet... and everyday I learn more about this lifestyle, I love it more and more. Car Free seems the way for me.. to be I can already see all kinds of ways this is going to better my life. It will be challenging but I am going to find the good, latch on and focus this into a great life change!!
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My desire to be car light come's from:
1 My love of the bicycle. The joy in the journey.
2 My desire to save money.
3 My desire to loose weight.
4 My dislike of autos. To many over complicated electronics to break.
1 My love of the bicycle. The joy in the journey.
2 My desire to save money.
3 My desire to loose weight.
4 My dislike of autos. To many over complicated electronics to break.
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For me, going car light had nothing to do with going green, reducing my carbon footprint, not wanting a car, etc. and everything to do with finances. When we looked at how much we could save a month, and that the money I got from my car paid off multiple credit cards, it was a no brainer. We didn't need two cars and if I need to travel for work, they pay for it.
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A very rough end to a long marriage, financially railroaded, facing homelessness in as little as another month potentially, losing vehicle within a week or two. No choice but to go car free right now. The choice is whether or not to stay this way once I get back on my feet... and everyday I learn more about this lifestyle, I love it more and more. Car Free seems the way for me.. to be I can already see all kinds of ways this is going to better my life. It will be challenging but I am going to find the good, latch on and focus this into a great life change!!
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Originally we went car free because we were throwing money away every month on a vehicle we were not using much.
My wife and I work from home and are semi-retired so we had a $700.00 per month (auto lease and insurance) commitment sitting in the driveway mostly unused. We decided to get rid of the car and save the money. As my wife put it, "that's an expensive driveway ornament".
The side benefits were increased exercise / health, and a more frugal shopping style - less wasted food and money. Part of me also wanted to embrace a more "Earth-Friendly" approach to life.
We did eventually end up getting another vehicle (used and cash-paid) as a safety net for emergencies as mentioned in the other thread.
We remain committed to using it as little as possible.
My wife and I work from home and are semi-retired so we had a $700.00 per month (auto lease and insurance) commitment sitting in the driveway mostly unused. We decided to get rid of the car and save the money. As my wife put it, "that's an expensive driveway ornament".
The side benefits were increased exercise / health, and a more frugal shopping style - less wasted food and money. Part of me also wanted to embrace a more "Earth-Friendly" approach to life.
We did eventually end up getting another vehicle (used and cash-paid) as a safety net for emergencies as mentioned in the other thread.
We remain committed to using it as little as possible.
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Some of the last few posts are from people (Machka, Bandera, tramptrade,baldilocks, mister, MikeRides, and others) who own cars but use them frugally and responsibly. Represent!
I find this to be very very inspirational. If more motorists were as conscientious as them, I wouldn't be the least bit "anti-car", although I would continue to push the "pro-bike" agenda to make it easier for everybody to use bikes or feet to get around more.
I find this to be very very inspirational. If more motorists were as conscientious as them, I wouldn't be the least bit "anti-car", although I would continue to push the "pro-bike" agenda to make it easier for everybody to use bikes or feet to get around more.
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Me? I'm just too cheap to buy a car. I am also too lazy to put up with all the hassles of car ownership.
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Yes, it really appeals to my inner cheapskate and lazybones! After a while, carfreedom becomes such an established way of life that I can't even think about owning a car without getting the willies.
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Hmm, here in my nighborhood a parking spot costs about $600 a month, highway tolls are stupidly expensive, it will cost me $70 in tolls to use the Aqualine for a round-trip to the countryside (about 60 miles away). Annual road tax is based on engine size, for my 6 liter V8 car that adds up to $80 per month, and then bi-annual inpsections are required, and are not cheap. And lastly is the cost of gasoline, which runs nearly $7 a gallon here.
This might sound good to those who dislike cars, but the costs apply to trucks as well, and pushes up the cost of all goods which require transportation (which is everything). Next, though Japan is a small country, public transportation does not go everywhere, and since driving to other parts of the country is a luxury few city-dwellers can afford (most Japanese live in the metro areas), the rural areas get few visitors, and are in steep economic decline. There are 8 million vacant homes in Japan now, and most of these are in the countryside.
This flight to the cities pushes up the cost of housing, and most people can afford only small apartments. Many of these are too small for families, so people forego having choldren. The lack of people in the countryside has resulted in a decline in farmers, the average farmer in Japan is over 60. And since there are no young people taking up farming, more than one-third of Japanese farmland is now undeveloped.
Being able to get around in a car cheaply is not necessarily a bad thing.
This might sound good to those who dislike cars, but the costs apply to trucks as well, and pushes up the cost of all goods which require transportation (which is everything). Next, though Japan is a small country, public transportation does not go everywhere, and since driving to other parts of the country is a luxury few city-dwellers can afford (most Japanese live in the metro areas), the rural areas get few visitors, and are in steep economic decline. There are 8 million vacant homes in Japan now, and most of these are in the countryside.
This flight to the cities pushes up the cost of housing, and most people can afford only small apartments. Many of these are too small for families, so people forego having choldren. The lack of people in the countryside has resulted in a decline in farmers, the average farmer in Japan is over 60. And since there are no young people taking up farming, more than one-third of Japanese farmland is now undeveloped.
Being able to get around in a car cheaply is not necessarily a bad thing.