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Old 06-11-20, 07:28 AM
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I recommend EPO. Then if possible, hunt Johnny Wad down and inflict some pain.
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Old 06-11-20, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
You're new around here, aren't you? https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...-yell-you.html
Well, doesn't look like OP was doing a group ride...
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Old 06-11-20, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
One thing I have learned in almost 50 years as a cyclist: No matter how good my fitness, there is always someone who is stronger than me
This happens in all facets of life. At least for me.

Back when I was a charter and corporate pilot, no matter how big or fast the airplane was I flew into a little podunk airstrip, someone else in a bigger faster airplane would soon pull up on the ramp next to me. Similar things too after getting on with the airlines.
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Old 06-11-20, 09:33 AM
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Drope that hammer!
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Back when I was a charter and corporate pilot, no matter how big or fast the airplane was I flew into a little podunk airstrip, someone else in a bigger faster airplane would soon pull up on the ramp next to me. Similar things too after getting on with the airlines.
I feel your pain. (I fly a Cessna 172.)
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Old 06-11-20, 10:52 AM
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I got passed by an older white haired dude on a geared beach cruiser looking thing, I have no ego
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Old 06-11-20, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by taco2ewsday
I got passed by an older white haired dude on a geared beach cruiser looking thing, I have no ego
The only ego I have when I ride is to finish my ride. If I set a 100km goal, I know I won't be able to see the finish line if I start racing with random people at the beginning of my ride or even half-way through.
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Old 06-11-20, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
The guy was actually being nice. He was
doing intervals, and his comment essentially was saying, don’t worry, I can’t keep this pace up for the whole climb either.

Broader point, there will always be people faster and slower than you, but his comment was a friendly gesture.
Exactly. I've had people jump on my wheel while I'm out doing intervals and I didn't realize it. When I sat up at the end of the interval, the wheel sucker nearly took us both out because I guess he thought I was going to pull him indefinitely. I've also had people who didn't know I was doing intervals and were trying to be helpful and do their share of pulling. It makes it hard to maintain your target wattage when you're now stuck behind someone. And then finally, I had this situation where I kept catching up to a young woman rider and I wanted to let her know that I wasn't creeping on her
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Old 06-11-20, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
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That's what's cool about endurance sports, we can feel the hurt just as bad as the pros do (even though we're slow). You can't really go out and dunk like Jordan or smash a serve like Serena. But you can grind your guts out up a climb.

When I see a slower rider hurting up a hill, they could often be hurting worse than I do at any point on my ride. Freaking kudos to that person!
On a 1200k like PBP the fast guys on the front suffer by choice, finishing with no sleep in 43ish hours. The real, brutal, life changing suffering happens at the back. People just barely making the time cutoffs, fighting sleep deprivations, physical, and mechanical issues for 90 or more hours. The most gut wrenching stories are the out of time finishers.

Faster just means faster.
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Old 06-11-20, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
I'll admit that when I'm riding solo and I see another rider ahead of me, the "race is on" even if the other rider has no idea that it is I like chasing down other riders just to give me incentive to ride a little harder than I normally do.
i got a chance to do that in zwift one night after a workout. I saw this guy, seemed like a hundred miles ahead, took that long t catch up. Wound up getting a kom on that ride. (Must have been a slow night)
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Old 06-11-20, 10:06 PM
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I got passed by a kid on a skateboard today.

Going 15mph up 1%. He seemed to be holding a clicker -type thing in his hand.
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Old 06-11-20, 11:20 PM
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It's not junior high. You don't have to care about what other people do or think. Ride for yourself.
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Old 06-12-20, 08:00 AM
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The older we get, the slower overall we get. Fact of life. And there’s going to be someone faster, stronger, more endurance etc than you out there somewhere. Won’t be seeing any AARP members winning the TdF, Boston, Kona anytime soon. Age group competitive yes, overall winner, ain’t gonna happen.

But, that doesn’t mean you still can’t be competitive for your age. I run/ride my own race.
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Originally Posted by Ilbiker
The older we get, the slower overall we get. Fact of life. And there’s going to be someone faster, stronger, more endurance etc than you out there somewhere. Won’t be seeing any AARP members winning the TdF, Boston, Kona anytime soon. Age group competitive yes, overall winner, ain’t gonna happen.

But, that doesn’t mean you still can’t be competitive for your age. I run/ride my own race.
The older we get, the less raw athletic potential we have. Most of us recreational athletes have so much headroom to our potential, we can stave off significant performance loss for a long time. Eventually, sure, that ceiling comes down hard.
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Old 06-14-20, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by justonwo
It's not junior high. You don't have to care about what other people do or think. Ride for yourself.
There's a term for people like that - Freds.
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Old 06-14-20, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
I'll admit that when I'm riding solo and I see another rider ahead of me, the "race is on" even if the other rider has no idea that it is I like chasing down other riders just to give me incentive to ride a little harder than I normally do.
Used to do that all the time, now it just depends on if it's one of the good days or not.
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Old 06-15-20, 11:38 AM
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The great thing about being an old geezer (I'm almost 70) is that they don't get any satisfaction when they see who they've passed.
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the theory of relativity

Originally Posted by thehammerdog
as i was doing my thing climbing up a nice 1 mile steady incline near end of my ride Jonny the Wad cyclist zooms by and yells Doing Intervals......i instinctly jump on wheel to save face only to blow up 50 yards later.
Shame.🤥
i remember racing as a junior in France and getting to train with a few pro tour riders. These guys were domestiques for a team called RMO. I can't recall their names, but I can remember that they were so strong that they simply annihilated me without even trying to do. Pretty humbling considering I was at the top of my game at the time at the time, even competing at US nationals. Quickly learned then that (a) these guys had freaky genetics (b) I wasn't going to become a pro and (c) riding is for fun, at least for me. I always chuckle on group rides when people boast about their times and how they beat so and so. I get it, I used to complete. But it's all very relative...
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Old 06-15-20, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ncracing72
i remember racing as a junior in France and getting to train with a few pro tour riders. These guys were domestiques for a team called RMO. I can't recall their names, but I can remember that they were so strong that they simply annihilated me without even trying to do. Pretty humbling considering I was at the top of my game at the time at the time, even competing at US nationals. Quickly learned then that (a) these guys had freaky genetics (b) I wasn't going to become a pro and (c) riding is for fun, at least for me. I always chuckle on group rides when people boast about their times and how they beat so and so. I get it, I used to complete. But it's all very relative...
so very true. of most things.
🙂
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Cycling buddy of mine was an Air Force vet. He would say "jets are fast, bikes are slow".

Then there's the story of the space shuttle captain who stepped in on some radio conversation about current velocity.

Relative for sure.
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Originally Posted by downtube42
Then there's the story of the space shuttle captain who stepped in on some radio conversation about current velocity.
Blackbird, not space shuttle.
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I just yell "Showoff!" It does bug me a bit. I have to remember my age, fitness level, and keep pushing.
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
as i was doing my thing climbing up a nice 1-mile steady incline near end of my ride Jonny the Wad cyclist zooms by and yells Doing Intervals......i instinctly jump on wheel to save face only to blow up 50 yards later.

Shame.🤥
I have two stories that kind of fit this. I was about 65 for both of these. I Ride the American River Bike trail almost exclusively.

Story 1. A young, 14-16 girl passes me. I jump on her wheel just before a short steep downgrade. She speeds up. I can tell she is working hard to stay ahead of the old man. Four miles later, I die climbing up a grade to the bridge where the bike trail crosses the American River. I stop in the centre of the bridge and pant as she keeps going. My time was faster than any woman time on that 4-mile segment.


Story 2. We do a moonlight ride that is 50 miles, but I ride 16 miles there and 16 miles back home. We have dinner for about an hour and a half in the middle.

The ride starts at mile 0. On my way home about mile 5, a big guy on a bike passes me in the dark. I jump on his wheel and manage to keep up with him until mile 12.5 where he turns off the trail. I am kind of glad it ended that way, I saved face and was dead again if he would not have turned I would have lost him.


Story 1 was going downstream, and story two was going upstream, but in both cases, I have not been able to establish a new personal best for either segment set more than 6 years ago. I have tried. There is something about motivation trying to keep up with a faster rider that makes a lot of difference. It is more than just drafting.
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Wow. Please don’t do that.
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Rule 71. https://www.velominati.com/

Not that I'm normally into that stuff, most of it's mostly nonsense. But - don't worry about anyone you're not riding with. Achieve the goal you set out for the ride you're doing. Don't get distracted.

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