hybridbkrdr

I don't have enough money to start a bike company but I'm wondering what people think of the following:

-aluminum frame & cro-mo fork with front & rear eyelets for racks & fenders
-Hollowtech II 46/30T crankset with chainguard
-integrated sealed bearing headset
-sealed bearing plastic pedals with reflectors
-V-brakes for hybrids, mini V-brakes for road bikes
-semi-slick tires like the Kenda Drumlin or Schwalbe Delta Cruiser
-mostly silver components to avoid black paint that rubs off and looks cheap
-Schrader tubes
EDIT: thru axles
ANOTHER EDIT: kickstand plates
YET ANOTHER EDIT: I'd go with replaceable chainrings

shelbyfv

This is bizarre but I'll play for awhile. The first three seem OK. No interest in plastic flat pedals, even with reflectors. Mini Vs suck in comparison to normal road calipers. I like silver components but it's getting hard to find them that aren't cheap. Could live with Schrader but what's the point? Now tell us why you ask.

Kapusta

Looks good. Go for it.

Koyote

I'm not really sure why you are asking...?

veganbikes

It sounds like a pretty boring generic and cheap hybrid of lower quality. The Hollowtech II and 46/30 gearing can be nice if quality but if just riveted chainrings no thanks.

hillyman

Ah, won't sell unless you market it with a bs name. I suggest a Stormrider Bike

70sSanO

Unfortunately I don’t think there is a chance that a small independent bicycle manufacturer can succeed with an aluminum frame steel fork bike.

That formula sits in the low to low-mid price range and offers no innovation nor does it create that steel is real mystic that companies like Soma have been able to occupy.

I don’t think it matters what components you use, it will be almost impossible to compete with Trek and Giant, not to mention the lower Schwinns.

John

Nyah

- I like chromoly for both frame and fork. I don't like aluminum for either of these foundation parts.
- I like triple chainwheel cranks. I do not like compact doubles. Chainwheel guards need to be standard on all cranksets with more than one chainring so, good on you for that.
- I like both slick and semi-slick tires.
- I do prefer raw metal color rather than painted.
- I like thru-axles.
- I prefer Presta.

If "hybrid" is meant to have flat handlebars, then no, I prefer drop-bars.

mattcalifornia

I absolutely hate Schrader valves. The rest seems pretty random.

DorkDisk

+1 on boring and standard with odd specifics.

Why? That's a serious question to the OP

hybridbkrdr

The choices out there I find pretty bleak. I mean my sister asked me what I'd suggest. So I looked online and saw bicycles like the Fuji Touring bike. Well, that does a chainguard and likely a more upright position which would make it more pleasant to ride. But it still has a steel frame instead of aluminum. The other choices out there, I wasn't sure what to say. I mean there's the Opus Classico Lightweight that has rim brakes but has a 1x drivetrain. There's the Trek Domane AL 3 but it has no chainguard, looks to have an aggressive position and no mention of Direct-Mount brakes (which I believe all modern road bikes should have). And there are no front rack mounts to speak of.

Look at the Giant Toughroad for example. I can celebrate the fact that Giant wants to make an interesting bike. But why not use 27.5x2.2" instead of 700x50? The tires they chose changes the geometry some people like. And no version with V-brakes? What if someone wants something easier to work with in the middle of the woods? Are people going to bleed hydraulic disc brakes on the side of the road? The front rack could also be attached to the upper front part of the fork to the middle of the fork like a Racktime Topit.

I mean I'm sure the bike designers are experts and these are large corporations but they don't seem to be able to get together and get things right.

Ferrouscious 

1-What's wrong with a quality steel frame?
2-What's wrong with a 1x drivetrain?
3-Why would a road bike have a chainguard and rack mounts, especially in the front?
4-Why would Giant limit their customers' tire choices so massively by using 27.5 slicks?
5-Are you fixing your bike in the middle of the woods? Why?
6-You don't need thru-axles with rim brakes. The advantage is for disc brake alignment.

Sounds to me like you want a base model Specialized Sirrus or any of the other big brand basic hybrids. Install a kickstand and a chainguard.

shelbyfv

Might be worth rethinking some of your criteria, seems random and half baked. Chain guard, Schrader valves? Most cyclists aren't interested in that. Learn more about bikes and you'll better understand why some features are popular. Edit- thru axles with rim brakes?

shelbyfv

There's more to this, whatever this is about https://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bi...2-4-tires.html

Nyah

Might be worth rethinking your criteria for a "cyclist", seems elitist. Not including an easily removable chainwheel guard saves you hardly any money but alienates many people who find putting on tights to be an unreasonable expectation for transporting oneself by bicycle. Finding chainwheel guards as aftermarket parts is nearly impossible. Learn more about peoples' interest in bicycling and you'll better understand why more people don't do it.

"Cyclists", the enemies of bicycle interest, acceptance and ubiquity.

Ferrouscious 

SKS makes one. Multiple, actually. https://www.sks-germany.com/en/produ...s/chainguards/

70sSanO

The problem is this is a niche design. It can’t be completely found because there is not enough of a market for this style. It is still a valid design, but at what price would someone spend to get it.

Will someone spend $1000, $2000, or more for specific design and components that together are fairly unique today?

The major manufacturers can get 90% there for probably a fraction of the cost due to their purchasing power. They have networks of shops and some warranty assurance, although somewhat limited.

I think the biggest issue is if you line up 50 people to give his/her ultimate bike, you’ll get 50 different responses, even if it is a type of valve, or no tube at all.

John

Pop N Wood

Add a slack geometry and long chainstays and you have just described a gravel bike that can be used for commuting or touring, Especially with decent racks. Switch the front fork to carbon, add disc brakes and you have described the Diamondback Haanjo

46/30 compact crank implies Shimano's new GRX stuff. I really want to put one of those on my 2x11 Tamland, will give me the lower gearing I need for long rides with lots of gear. The GRX stuff isn't readily available just yet.

Every bike should use through axles, disc brakes or not.

shelbyfv

I don't think folks who play putt putt are considered "golfers."

70sSanO

While I wouldn't go quite this far, there is a distinction between someone who is dedicated and someone who is more casual in any activity.

It doesn't matter the activity, it is the dedication to getting as good as possible, even if that level is not elite, at "something". Putting in the hours helps to get the "ist", but without the skill it is a bit hollow. It is just the way it is.

I am not a cyclist, or surfer, or golfer, or musician, and I am happy about that. I enjoy what I am able to do and my dedication in a specif discipline waxes and wanes. I do okay.

But I will always tip my hat to the person who is a great climber, or can tackle the toughest technical sections, or can ride all day. It just doesn't happen.

John

Wildwood 

Sounds like a cheapie, unless you are specific with components. Huffy with a thru axle?

livedarklions

I don't think riding any kind of bicycle is the equivalent of playing putt putt.

Anyone who plays golf is a golfer, anyone who rides a bike is a cyclist. You want to qualify it, use your adjectives. There's plenty of urban commuters and utility bicyclists who might want a couple of those features you disdain. I know people who want Schrader stems so they don't have to carry a pump as long as they're close to a gas station, which they generally are when they ride.

That said, I still don't get this thread. Is op asking if any other poster wants that particular list, or are they asking if we've done some kind of market research to know if someone else will?

shelbyfv

Fair enough, maybe we'll compromise. I'm not inclined to call a DUI bum rider or a kid on a Barbie bike a cyclist except in the broadest sense of the term. I'll still call that putt putt. I like your term "utility cyclist" and maybe I'll try "cycling enthusiast" for what has heretofore been known as "cyclist" on BF. And yes, again a bizarre couple of threads by OP. Is he trying to market a bike or just noodling?

jack pot 

> what do you call it & what color is it ??

70sSanO

Charles Barkley?

John