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Need new tire..tubeless installation

Old 06-24-20, 07:25 AM
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Need new tire..tubeless installation

Thinking to buy a tubeless tire and install it myself (I have a 2019 Trek Checkpoint ALR5) but it looks a bit complicated from watching some youtube videos. Is it?
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Old 06-24-20, 07:34 AM
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If you don't own a compressor, it can be a little tough to get some tires seated. Other than that, it's pretty much like mounting any other tire.
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It’s pretty straightforward. Here’s a couple of tips.... Remove the presta valve core when attempting to seat the tire, you’ll get lots more air volume that way, and...don’t add sealant until you’ve already seated the tire. Once the beads have seated and everything looks good, remove the pump head from the presta valve (of course all the air will escape). Then add the desired amount of sealant thru the presta (the valve core is still missing at this point). Finally, install the valve core and air it up again to whatever pressure you’ll be running, and slosh the tire around to spread the sealant around.
Then mount the wheel and ride.
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Skinny strippers are the nuclear option. If they came out when tubeless was created, we would have like a quarter as many threads asking about tubeless problems.

No matter what rim an tire combo, leaky valve stem, or peeling tape, skinny strippers basically fix it.

I install them once I decide I like the tire and hope to keep it on until the tire is totally worn out.

I always keep 2 in the garage and reorder if I run low.
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Its often easy, sometimes impossible. The hardest part is getting the tire on the rim (especially some hook-less rims). If you can do that, the rest is well documented above by sarhog. I always figured if I couldn't use my hand pump, I'd go to the local gas station and use their compressed air. But skinny strippers work great if it won't mount on its own.

Give it a try and let us know how it goes...
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So far I've had 100% success with the following on my gravel wheels:

Remove valve core, install tire with tube
Inflate and get both beads to seat all the way
Deflate, unseat one bead, CAREFULLY remove the tube leaving the other bead fully seated
Install valve core
Set the wheel horizontally on the ground with the open bead down, so gravity helps a bit rather than hinders
Carefully tug on the tread to get the open bead as close to the rim as you can. You might be able to set about half of the circumference all the way into the bead.
Pump hard

But there's such a wide range in rims and tires, best you can do it try and see what happens. If you're in the market for a new floor pump there are a bunch now with air chambers you can compress with the handle then release in a burst, this makes a lot of sense to me.
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Originally Posted by fourfa
So far I've had 100% success with the following on my gravel wheels:

Remove valve core, install tire with tube
Inflate and get both beads to seat all the way
Deflate, unseat one bead, CAREFULLY remove the tube leaving the other bead fully seated
Install valve core
Set the wheel horizontally on the ground with the open bead down, so gravity helps a bit rather than hinders
Carefully tug on the tread to get the open bead as close to the rim as you can. You might be able to set about half of the circumference all the way into the bead.
Pump hard

But there's such a wide range in rims and tires, best you can do it try and see what happens. If you're in the market for a new floor pump there are a bunch now with air chambers you can compress with the handle then release in a burst, this makes a lot of sense to me.
Sometimes I will need to apply a little soapy water on that unseated bead side, just to make it a little easier to move the bead up on the rim shelf, when pumping up.

If one bead still does not want to seat, I will use a tyre lever to force the bead up on the shelf; running the lever around the rim. About 3/4 of the bead tends to seat before things get too tight to lever by hand any more. Then I pump up. There is a final trick where you can perform a similar bead lifting action by putting the wheel/tyre back in the dropout, and using the tyre lever in a hand-locked position, while slowly turning the wheel with your hand/bodyweight force. This takes much less force/effort than doing the same off the frame. Of course, I am only resorting to this method if run out of / or have no cO2.

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Skinny strippers?

Somehow, i dont think it means what i think it means.
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On my Niner RDO, the tubeless G1's go on pretty easy by hand. Now on my Trek FX6S, you're not getting the tubeless Bontrager tires on without some mechanical assistance. I've found this handy Kool-Stop tire jack and a bit of soapy water makes that a 10 second task with no cursing or sore hands.

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Originally Posted by guadzilla
Skinny strippers?

Somehow, i dont think it means what i think it means.
Well, the orignial product was fatty strippers. Word of advice: don't google this at work.
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Originally Posted by csrpenfab
On my Niner RDO, the tubeless G1's go on pretty easy by hand. Now on my Trek FX6S, you're not getting the tubeless Bontrager tires on without some mechanical assistance. I've found this handy Kool-Stop tire jack and a bit of soapy water makes that a 10 second task with no cursing or sore hands.
+1. Highly recommended. One of the best bang for the buck tools I have ever bought. Never thought of it before tubeless, but it makes life so much easier (and sometimes solves impossible jobs).

Y'all go buy one
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