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Old 07-03-12, 03:01 PM
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Awesome thread DM, thanks for taking the time to post it!
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I wonder if they'd require a front brake if equipped with a coaster brake. I could swear I've seen new bikes with just coasters (in photos).
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I'm shooting a similar theme: bikes parked in New York City, with a few here in New Jersey.

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One thing I noticed is the Japanese drillium in the pics posted does not always look like they make sense structurally or aesthetically, but I guess that's just kind of a aesthetic and engineering culture difference thing.......anyway, they must have a big laugh when they see things like this....

...from our side of the world!.....

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Great pics. I love the Venus...
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Do you have any more pictures of that Cherubim, Dawes-Man? Not exactly my cup of tea, style-wise, but looks like a very beautiful bike. As for brakes, it'll be a shame to clutter up that beauty but maybe he could rig up some dummy, temporary calipers that only look like brakes ?
Some people are doing that. There is a shop that mounts a narrow Campagnolo rear brake behind the seat tube on the chain stays. Nice and unobtrusive.

I don't have any other photos of the Cherubim but will take some next time I'm passing the shop and post them, specially for you, footboy
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
...except for that rule about having both a F&R brake , or facing a $600 fine. That rule alone would completely kill the fixie craze...hmmmm...
Seriously: there are several 'clip-on' or temporary brakes that your friend with the Cherubim might consider to make it technically compliant...but they might ruin the elegant lines.

I think most stayer bikes had the fork reversed so the front could really tuck in tight to the pacing motorcycle and draft...plus they often had a super-sized chainring. The San Rensho might be a track time-trialer...then again, maybe they do things like stayer racing differently in Japan.

Great treat to see all this, rusty chains and all! Thanks!
What a lot of people are doing (well, I know 3) is fitting a clamp-on brake to the front and a coaster brake to the back. In fact, the Venus owner has done just that. He got the Torpedo Duomatic from me a couple of years ago. I've fitted a Torpedo Automatic to my Chesini pista for the same reason. And the owner of the shop outside which I took the Venus and Everest photos has a dummy front brake on his Bridgestone track bike and a working rear.

Track time-trialer, huh? I'll ask when I next pass the shop, when I take some more photos of the Cherubim for rootboy.
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Came across this Presto track-framed machine this afternoon:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Nicely made:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

But what made me take notice was this:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Made in France, the bars and carrier cost around $250 in Japan. The Nitto stem is a must... just imagine trying to thread the bars and basket through the stem otherwise

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

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Is that rack really supported solely by the handlebar clamp?
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I need that Nitto UI stem. I have one in 100mm, but I need a shorter one.
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All but one of those rusty chains haven't been ridden for a while, just look at the rollers and the valley between the sprocket's teeth.

Nice pic's, keep 'em comin'!
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My apologies all. The rack is made in Denmark by Copenhagan Parts.



And yes, Mos6502, it is.
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Originally Posted by dddd
All but one of those rusty chains haven't been ridden for a while, just look at the rollers and the valley between the sprocket's teeth.

Nice pic's, keep 'em comin'!
Not so, dddd. 3 of them are being used, the blue bike and the 2 black Fujis as they all appear and disappear regularly. Yeah, I know...
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
I need that Nitto UI stem. I have one in 100mm, but I need a shorter one.
NITTO has a 'Clamp on U1-2' available on its website. Sizes 60 - 120mm.

This site has them in 60, 70, 80 & 90mm for $64. There are other sites offering them but I haven't checked them. You can do some U1-2 surfing by copying, pasting and searching for: 日東 UI-2

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I don't think I'd actually want to ride those drilled out cranks. That drilling looks like a bit much, and makes me question the integrity. I admit it looks cool. those riser bars on the other hand, do not.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
I need that Nitto UI stem. I have one in 100mm, but I need a shorter one.
How about this 80 degree, 95mm? ¥3200 - $41, plus another $10 or so for shipping...
https://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/p303309643

Ah, not what you wanted at all! Sorry!
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
That's all pretty amazing stuff to be seeing on the street Dawes-man (the Venus especiallly), but for me the thing that really takes the cake is the rust!
OMG! What are they thinking?!

That's what the bike chains look like here in Germany as well. I think most people use a bicycle for a commuting tool and don't really care as long as it is working. I can usually hear them shifting gears or pedaling along because of chain condition. Sounds like tanks clanking down the street. LOL
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Isn't that red track bike with a basket (good grief now) a Jan LeGrand-built Presto?

The same Jan LeGrand who built the team bikes for Raleigh?

That seems a sad use of such a fine machine if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by dddd
Isn't that red track bike with a basket (good grief now) a Jan LeGrand-built Presto?

The same Jan LeGrand who built the team bikes for Raleigh?

That seems a sad use of such a fine machine if you ask me.
Funny you should mention that. It's something I've wrestled with myself with my own bikes but I came to the conclusion that as long as it's only temporary, in the sense that whatever mod is carried out can be unbolted, as in the case of the Presto, it's better to see a machine loved, cared for and used. There's no doubt the owner of the Presto does all of these. He was there when I took the photos and was pleased that I was taking an interest.

On the other hand, had the bike been faithfully tracked out but with a rusty chain...
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Yikes. Here in Korea I don't see rusty chains unless its a kid, or grandpa riding a bike that looks older than he does. Lots of flat tires though. Odd when theres an aircompressor every 5km or so along any designated bike/walking path. They use them to clean shoes and its easy to get the right adapter to use it put air in tires.
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I have quite a lot of stuff to share with you all this time. Mainly as I've been snapping photos and then doing nothing with them.

First off, what I think is a French postman's bike I spotted outside a supermarket as I was going home from a firework display in Tsukuji, famous for its fish market:

[IMG] IMG_0252 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Not terribly good photos as it was dark and I only had my iPhone with me.

[IMG] IMG_0250 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Next is this very small frame Umezawa. Beautifully made, lug less, it's a track frame but I don't remember what kind of racing it was built for. I'll post that info later:

[IMG] IMG_0197 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

There was a bicycle event in the park near where I live on Friday, called Pedal Day 2012, which I went along to. It's actually a 3-day event with the 2nd & 3rd day, being on the weekend, with lots more going on. Anyway, there were a few things I enjoyed seeing, like this LEVEL (well known Keirin frame builder)... thing?

[IMG] IMG_9673 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Apparently, you can really get the rpms up high...

Nicely made, as you would expect from LEVEL:

[IMG] IMG_9677 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Very nifty stem for dialing in the perfect position - I though I got a better pic but I can't find it:

[IMG] IMG_9679 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]
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This was very interesting. Another Keirin frame maker of repute, VENUS, made this back in the 60s or early-70s, I think. The maker no longer makes...

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Apart from it being a beautifully made, and preserved frame...

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

... it has a couple of very interesting features added for training use on public roads - firstly, a rear bum-brake:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Secondly, a 'lightweight' toolkit - 'Look! No bag!' It simply threads on to the rear axle end:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

And thirdly, a neatly adjustable toe clip:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Other features that make this a fine machine - a well preserved UNNO tubing sticker - back in the day. all Keirin frames were made of this. Looks new to me but I was assured it was original...:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]
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The beautiful VENUS down tube sticker:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

And the Sugino cottered crank:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Other interesting stuff at Pedal Day 2012:

A wood & Columbus tubing bike:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Made by this guy, Masateru Yasuda, standing with a later model:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

He built frames for Zullo for 6 years and says that after returning to Japan got bored with steel and decided he wanted to make something with Japanese materials, which apart from the steel Colombus seat tube, this is:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

He explained that the wood (which sandwiches layers of carbon fibre - the black stripes you can see) shrank and expanded with weather conditions. Hence the adjuster on this, later model:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

I know there are a few Zullo fans here, so here is one he made earlier:

[IMG] Untitled by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

I had a ride on the wooden bikes. There were very comfortable, if not a little wooden (arf, arf) and they creak occasionally, just like a wooden ship...
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