Regular shorts with chamois?
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Thanks. I didn’t see where the shorts had a chamois liner. Free shipping for orders over $100? That pretty much means free shipping on everything!
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They are expensive, but they go the distance without showing any of the usual signs of wear or tear. Pockets don’t get holes, waistband edges don’t wear out, fasteners don’t break, seams don’t come apart and they don’t fade with washing and UV exposure. Yet at the same time they are ultra-lightweight, windproof, water resistant, breathable and cut perfectly for riding. I have other shorts that are durable, but they are much heavier and get soaked in sweat. Try these and you won’t want to wear anything else.
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And how EXACTLY do you have experience with AI response programs? I have none as I cannot waste time on social media and prefer not to engage in adult child communication as it is pointless and a bit like describing a piece of music to a deaf person.
Seems like you have the perspective of a flatlander with little experience and no desire to learn anything from others which begs the question - why are you on this forum?
Seems like you have the perspective of a flatlander with little experience and no desire to learn anything from others which begs the question - why are you on this forum?
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But, you know, this is kind of circular - AI responses to questions are based on it mimicking real people's responses to questions, so rather than seeing it as his responses sounding like AI, perhaps AI sounds like his responses, which tbf are pretty generic in phrasing.
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But, you know, this is kind of circular - AI responses to questions are based on it mimicking real people's responses to questions, so rather than seeing it as his responses sounding like AI, perhaps AI sounds like his responses, which tbf are pretty generic in phrasing.
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I thought the company was long out of business because Adventure Cycling dropped the item from their Cyclosource catalog. However the J&G website is still active.
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edit: I see now that "add to cart" link goes to a "not secure" site. I think I'll delete my above post! Thanks for pointing this out.
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there are a number of loose / baggy MTB / touring shorts with an attached padded liner short - some sewn and some attach with Velcro or snaps as do the Endura shorts pictured above … Specialized and Cannondale also offered shorts like this - but don’t know if they still do
as mentioned by others in previous posts - can also wear lightweight nylon or similar shorts over padded bike shorts
I’ve done this for years - even showed up for road rides with double shorts after finishing an MTB off road ride earlier in the day … much to the dismay of some of my hard core roadie friends - and got the name ‘t2p’ - tommy two pants
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But, you know, this is kind of circular - AI responses to questions are based on it mimicking real people's responses to questions, so rather than seeing it as his responses sounding like AI, perhaps AI sounds like his responses, which tbf are pretty generic in phrasing.
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Have you ever read “Blink—The Art of Thinking Without Thinking”, by Malcolm Gladwell? A lot of discussion about knowing something is awry without being able to pinpoint the reason at first. Great read.
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Humans are keen on deciphering what's wrong?
Call it intuition, emotional intelligence, pre-cognition or gut instinct; there are several modes of intelligence and the use of perceptions and apperceptions.
Or, this is all BS and I am just free associating.
You be the judge.
Call it intuition, emotional intelligence, pre-cognition or gut instinct; there are several modes of intelligence and the use of perceptions and apperceptions.
Or, this is all BS and I am just free associating.
You be the judge.
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I have not. Thanks for the tip.
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Unfortunately, we are not usually where power is vested. Vested power is blind to the consequences of anything with a sweet pay-off proposition. We have to share a dying Planet with them ...
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I have bought two J&G items since the liquidation began. Items came with no delay and there do not appear to be any collateral unauthorized transactions as a result. If those shorts can work for you then go get 'em.
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Do this, and just about ANY shorts will do, and the pad will stay in the right place. Even if the cycling shorts peek out the bottom a bit.
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there are def tons out there. MTB can range from fitting to baggy baggy. Ive found some really great pairs from Giro and Blacksheep I ride a lot. And along with the OG rapha touring shorts (not as many useful pockets) I have a nice arsenal of comfortable shorts.
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I like the shorts that the local BassPro sells that are like MTB shorts. They have multiple pockets and the material is a little slick so my butt doesn't stick to the seat. I wear padded biking underwear underneath. I also like belt loops on my shorts as wearing a belt gives me a place to hang my phone within easy reach. It's nice to have a zippered fly in case you need to water the local vegetation while on a ride. I think I pay about $25 for the BP brand of shorts.
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fwiw - I use thin lined tri shorts under mountain bike shorts, which look like generic cargo shorts but are made with fast drying fabric, stretchy waist good pockets w/ zippers & cut so they flex properly while pedaling. I bought MTB shorts with a removeable liner but didn't like the liner fit. so I chucked it & use Zoot tri shorts under them. I also wear them under gym shorts at the gym. I sweat a lot & the keeps exercise machines dry! the MTB shorts are great for everyday use too (w/ regular underwear). I practically live in them during summer months when not at the office
for example
ZOIC Ether Short
with these under ZOOT Men's Performance Tri 8-Inch Short
I wear 38" waist trousers but for these items I get XXL
for example
ZOIC Ether Short
with these under ZOOT Men's Performance Tri 8-Inch Short
I wear 38" waist trousers but for these items I get XXL
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