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Old 01-19-24, 05:58 PM
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Desdemonda
There Iago, making Moor puns.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
The only point in having separate aero and climbing race bikes is if the aero bike is significantly above the UCI 6.8 kg weight limit. So if they can now optimise aero without compromising on min weight then there is no case for a dedicated climbing race bike within the UCI regs. Only bikes like the Aethos make any sense as dedicated hill climbing weapons outside of UCI regulations.

So I think it’s just a matter of time before they all follow Specialized in producing a single road race frame.
Your logic makes sense, and I assume Trek is having trouble justifying both models in the face of an industry downturn. From a business perspective it makes sense. I'm just not excited about the potential merger of the Madone and the Emonda into one hybrid package. I'm probably in the minority.
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I wonder if they will find a way to write the TREK even bigger on the new bike. I mean...


In this historically accurate picture you will notice, the trek was not always so big.


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Originally Posted by eduskator
I wonder if they will find a way to write the TREK even bigger on the new bike. I mean...

Whenever I see those wheels, I mis-read the label as "areolus". Then I have to remind myself it has internal spoke nipples.
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Maybe in a few years they will come out with an aerodynamically optimized triple chainring with smaller cassettes.
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that logo, ffs.

All that logo needs now are a set of Audi HID lights & a toyota RAV4 Prime back-up alert sound box module.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
There Iago, making Moor puns.
I do perceive here a divided duty

Merging the 2 models and their names makes sense ;-)
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Old 01-20-24, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Turnin_Wrenches
Your logic makes sense, and I assume Trek is having trouble justifying both models in the face of an industry downturn. From a business perspective it makes sense. I'm just not excited about the potential merger of the Madone and the Emonda into one hybrid package. I'm probably in the minority.
Is that because you want to justify buying 2 slightly different bikes? Otherwise I don't see a real problem here. The pros have realised that they might as well use their aero road bike in the mountains, so the need for a "climbing" bike with less aero, that weighs exactly the same within a few grams is pointless. They might switch from 50 to 30 mm deep wheels for mountain stages, but that's about all.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
A picture of a guy crosschaining... #OhWell

''Aerorace'' seems to be the trend since a few years. One bike to rule them all like Specialized would say. I don't believe that the Madone will disappear though.
he’s not cross-chaining - you can clearly see the teeth of the largest sprocket, which would me invisible if the chain was sitting on them - he’s on the second-largest sprocket
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I fail to see the difference between the brand being on the side of the bike.
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Wait, this one has less letters so they made the print bigger.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Is that because you want to justify buying 2 slightly different bikes?
No, I just have a strong preference for the function and the aesthetic of a full-on aero road bike. Perhaps it's because I live in Florida and have no need for a climbing bike.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
The pros have realised that they might as well use their aero road bike in the mountains, so the need for a "climbing" bike with less aero, that weighs exactly the same within a few grams is pointless. They might switch from 50 to 30 mm deep wheels for mountain stages, but that's about all.
At the speeds pros climb most of the time, aero is more beneficial than reducing grams. But if they wanted to swap out the disc brakes and e-shifting, they could have an aero-framed bike approaching the UCI weight limit.
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It doesn't look like Madonna rides a Madonda. That would have been cool if she had.

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Madge needs a bike fit

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It should be the Daemon because (take your pick):

The diamond shaped tail cutout
Divinity in some form of Greek
Archaic form of demon
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Originally Posted by seypat
It should be the Daemon because (take your pick):

The diamond shaped tail cutout
Divinity in some form of Greek
Archaic form of demon
Ha never noticed that anagram of them before
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You could also go with Andmoe. That would make it the third stooge after the Madone and Emonda.
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I’m wondering if Trek will ever discover that there are more letters in the alphabet besides aedmon.
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Originally Posted by 13ollocks
he’s not cross-chaining - you can clearly see the teeth of the largest sprocket, which would me invisible if the chain was sitting on them - he’s on the second-largest sprocket
It's still cross-chaining, dude!
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Originally Posted by eduskator
It's still cross-chaining, dude!
OFFS 🙄 by your logic, anything but a straight chain is “cross-chaining” to some degree. But you have fun with your definition, and I’ll stick with mine 👍
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Two biggest and two smallest cogs are considered cross-chaining in my conservative mind my chain probably lasts longer than yours for this reason.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
Two biggest and two smallest cogs are considered cross-chaining in my conservative mind my chain probably lasts longer than yours for this reason.
We-e-ellll...

Chains are a lot more flexible these days, and I don't think World Tour pros worry about chain wear.
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I think big/big is fine. Why else would we have trim? Small/any of the 3 smallest cogs is madness.
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Originally Posted by choddo
I think big/big is fine. Why else would we have trim? Small/any of the 3 smallest cogs is madness.
Shimano and SRAM appear to agree. They both lock out small-small on their electronic groups, but not big-big.
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