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Old 08-15-19, 07:13 AM
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Elemnt Bolt and Wireless Computer ?

Recently bought a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt, using it with a speed sensor. I like to keep a regular basic computer on each bike to record total mileage, and because I don't always use the Bolt.

Anyone have any experience or knowledge of interference between a wireless bike computer and the Elemnt Bolt (with a speed sensor on the rear hub)? Finishing up a new bike build and want to put a wireless computer on it.
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I've never heard of another computer that interfaces with a Bolt. To maintain overall miles, I copy each ride from the Bolt companion app to Cyclemeter, which uses a local database, and use that for all my stats. I only keep one weeks worth of rides in the Bolt. The advantage of having a local database is you don't need WiFi or cellular to access any of your ride data.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Recently bought a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt, using it with a speed sensor. I like to keep a regular basic computer on each bike to record total mileage, and because I don't always use the Bolt.

Anyone have any experience or knowledge of interference between a wireless bike computer and the Elemnt Bolt (with a speed sensor on the rear hub)? Finishing up a new bike build and want to put a wireless computer on it.
Bolt uses either bluetooth or ANT+ depending on how you have it set up. Most basic $30 wireless bike computers operate on a different frequency. In theory I don't think there should be any interference.

Also I have not experienced any interference with my bolt in large group rides where there are lots of other computers and frequencies being used.
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Old 08-15-19, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Bolt uses either bluetooth or ANT+ depending on how you have it set up. Most basic $30 wireless bike computers operate on a different frequency. In theory I don't think there should be any interference.

Also I have not experienced any interference with my bolt in large group rides where there are lots of other computers and frequencies being used.
Cool - I'll give it a try then, thanks.
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Old 08-22-19, 07:17 PM
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I just added a Bolt to my bike and kept the Cateye wireless computer. No issues between them. I do have an issue with the Cateye if I have a GoPro or my NiteRider headlight within a few inches of the computer-they knock out the wireless signal.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Recently bought a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt, using it with a speed sensor. I like to keep a regular basic computer on each bike to record total mileage, and because I don't always use the Bolt.

Anyone have any experience or knowledge of interference between a wireless bike computer and the Elemnt Bolt (with a speed sensor on the rear hub)? Finishing up a new bike build and want to put a wireless computer on it.
Just let the Bolt upload to Strava and you can select the bike there.
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Originally Posted by KenCT
I just added a Bolt to my bike and kept the Cateye wireless computer. No issues between them. I do have an issue with the Cateye if I have a GoPro or my NiteRider headlight within a few inches of the computer-they knock out the wireless signal.
Why?
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
Why?
Both the GoPro and the NiteRider have small computer chips in them which generate radio frequencies when they are running. While the signals generated are weak, they are strong enough to block the signal from the wheel sensor the to Cateye computer when they are near each other.
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Originally Posted by KenCT
Both the GoPro and the NiteRider have small computer chips in them which generate radio frequencies when they are running. While the signals generated are weak, they are strong enough to block the signal from the wheel sensor the to Cateye computer when they are near each other.
The BOLT should be fine. Why do you need two computers then?
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
The BOLT should be fine. Why do you need two computers then?
I just picked up the Bolt a couple of weeks ago. I’ll most likely keep a Cateye wireless on both my bikes as I like to keep a running total of mileage for each bike.
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Originally Posted by KenCT
I just picked up the Bolt a couple of weeks ago. I’ll most likely keep a Cateye wireless on both my bikes as I like to keep a running total of mileage for each bike.
Upload it to Strava and/or RWGPS and set the bike there (you can do it bulk, IIRC). You can then see the accumulated mileage. RWGPS also has a maintenance log feature where you can log maintenance against mileage and date.

The Wahoo Bolt will upload to both automatically.

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I do that too, only started using Strava this year. I’ve had one type or another bike odometer or computer for a little over 30 years, just used to it being there on the bike.
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
Just let the Bolt upload to Strava and you can select the bike there.
Yeah I've had some of my riding buddies say that, but I don't even record all my rides, especially my commutes.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Yeah I've had some of my riding buddies say that, but I don't even record all my rides, especially my commutes.
The upload is seamless. You likely won’t even know it happened.
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The bolt also comes with two mounts. I put the main mount on my roadie and the ziptie mounted one on my commuter. I can't see how having two computers on one bike would be easier than just twisting the Bolt off one and onto the other. It is just so simple, no wires. The Bolt comes with me when I vacation in case I find myself on a borrowed or rented bike too. I just keep it in my pocket to record the rides.

And the Bolt will record mileage even without a speed sensor using the GPS data. Why do you need anything else?
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
The upload is seamless. You likely won’t even know it happened.
Yep, I get that. But I literally don't record all my rides with my GPS. I just don't care to know what my commute to work and back was like on any given day. Maybe it's silly but it feels like digital clutter to me.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Yep, I get that. But I literally don't record all my rides with my GPS. I just don't care to know what my commute to work and back was like on any given day. Maybe it's silly but it feels like digital clutter to me.
Comes a time when that traditional computer dies, batteries need replacing, etc... then you might find yourself just using the Bolt all the time. It’s not exactly a difficult process to swap to different bikes, I use 4 bikes on a regular basis and it’s just natural now. As well, the save feature is a one button push at the end of a ride. On my Garmin I press stop, and Save. Done. Uploaded. Can ignore the info, never use it, whatever, but it’s not like the device makes it complicated.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Yep, I get that. But I literally don't record all my rides with my GPS. I just don't care to know what my commute to work and back was like on any given day. Maybe it's silly but it feels like digital clutter to me.
Miles are miles. It doesn't matter which bike or how you ride them. If I'm looking at individual rides I always know which are commutes.

I guess I don't get how just letting the Bolt record on every ride is any kind of hassle and in any way more of a hassle than dealing with 2 computers.
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Originally Posted by zacster
Miles are miles. It doesn't matter which bike or how you ride them. If I'm looking at individual rides I always know which are commutes.

I guess I don't get how just letting the Bolt record on every ride is any kind of hassle and in any way more of a hassle than dealing with 2 computers.
It's really not more of a hassle. I know I'm being a bit weird about it, I just don't want that record in Strava (or rwgps - I use both).

Honestly, I don't even like using Strava - not a fan of the whole "kudos" for riding a few miles thing. I only use it because the guys I ride with don't use rwgps, and occassionally I record a ride I think they'd be interested in seeing.
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Comes a time when that traditional computer dies, batteries need replacing, etc... then you might find yourself just using the Bolt all the time. It’s not exactly a difficult process to swap to different bikes, I use 4 bikes on a regular basis and it’s just natural now. As well, the save feature is a one button push at the end of a ride. On my Garmin I press stop, and Save. Done. Uploaded. Can ignore the info, never use it, whatever, but it’s not like the device makes it complicated.
I guess the tiny additional complication is that you have to go select which bike you rode. Like I said - I know it's not really rational, I just don't like recording every ride for posterity on Strava (and I only have a very limited number of followers anyway!).
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Originally Posted by billyymc
It's really not more of a hassle. I know I'm being a bit weird about it, I just don't want that record in Strava (or rwgps - I use both).

Honestly, I don't even like using Strava - not a fan of the whole "kudos" for riding a few miles thing. I only use it because the guys I ride with don't use rwgps, and occassionally I record a ride I think they'd be interested in seeing.
The Elemnt also records total mileage and displays it in the app (and I think on the head unit), although, yes, you have to record your ride using it. No need to upload to Strava/RwGPS, etc.
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Originally Posted by billyymc
I guess the tiny additional complication is that you have to go select which bike you rode. Like I said - I know it's not really rational, I just don't like recording every ride for posterity on Strava (and I only have a very limited number of followers anyway!).
I don’t use Strava, I use Ride With GPS. It’s my ride tracker as well as route generator. All my rides are private unless I choose to share. RWGPS is where I track stuff like repairs, bike mileage, etc....
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Yep, I get that. But I literally don't record all my rides with my GPS. I just don't care to know what my commute to work and back was like on any given day. Maybe it's silly but it feels like digital clutter to me.
The connectivity is one of the strengths of the Bolt. Unclear why you bought one?
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
The connectivity is one of the strengths of the Bolt. Unclear why you bought one?
Primarily for the turn by turn capability. I do quite a few longish rides with routes that get quite complex. Lots of those are in the countryside / forest roads where markings arent' great. I had been writing my own abbreviated cue sheets and taping them to my top tube. And still missing turns at times.

As for connectivity, I'm one of those weirdos who likes to be unconnected sometimes.

Appreciate all the comments. I picked up a Cateye wireless for the bike and will see how it plays with the Bolt. If they dont' play well together then I guess I'll use the Bolt for the purposes I"m stating and just not upload everything to Strava (just tally it in the Elemnt app itself).
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Originally Posted by billyymc
Primarily for the turn by turn capability. I do quite a few longish rides with routes that get quite complex. Lots of those are in the countryside / forest roads where markings arent' great. I had been writing my own abbreviated cue sheets and taping them to my top tube. And still missing turns at times. I'll use the Bolt for the purposes I"m stating and just not upload everything to Strava (just tally it in the Elemnt app itself).
So how are you creating these routes ?. The easiest method is on-line at RWGPS, then dump to the device. Trying to do it on the Wahoo mobile app is a PITA, in my opinion. Sounds like you like and use the better features of the Bolt, just have no need to use every ride and no need to upload to Strava. The device requires neither.
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