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Picked up this bike today. Raleigh All Steel Bicycle, Front Dyno dated 49-5. Rear Aw hub dated 49-5 .Serial # is AR19609.Rod Brakes.Was painted with silver paint for some reason... I found the decal on the chain guard (Raleigh) and on the front lower down tube ( All Steel Bicycle).
Took it for a spin.. Shifts good. The Rod brakes need some work.Pedals are broken.Needs alot of elbow grease for sure. I tried looking this bike up on The Headbadge website but cant seem to find the exact one.
Wheels are 28 inch. Tires are 28x1 1/2. . It has a Britanniallou Air pump.Brooks saddle.
Took it for a spin.. Shifts good. The Rod brakes need some work.Pedals are broken.Needs alot of elbow grease for sure. I tried looking this bike up on The Headbadge website but cant seem to find the exact one.
Wheels are 28 inch. Tires are 28x1 1/2. . It has a Britanniallou Air pump.Brooks saddle.
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Hubs, serial, and shifter all match up - 1949.
It's a fair guess that it's a Raleigh Popular. Even though the '48 catalog doesn't specify a Dynohub as an option, the '51 catalog does list the optional AW/GH6 combo - but with the dry battery unit. Any noticeable splices in the wires at the seatlug?
-Kurt
It's a fair guess that it's a Raleigh Popular. Even though the '48 catalog doesn't specify a Dynohub as an option, the '51 catalog does list the optional AW/GH6 combo - but with the dry battery unit. Any noticeable splices in the wires at the seatlug?
-Kurt
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Thanks for the information. I have been searching the web most of the day trying to find anything out about this bike.
There is no indication of wires or anything for a battery unit. Just the front Dyno.
I also never saw a Raleigh with Horizontal drop outs?? Was this common back in the 1940's ??
Thank you so much for your information...
Brian
There is no indication of wires or anything for a battery unit. Just the front Dyno.
I also never saw a Raleigh with Horizontal drop outs?? Was this common back in the 1940's ??
Thank you so much for your information...
Brian
-Kurt
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I guess I haven't seen very much, I have had a few Raleigh's in the past and none of them had rear facing ends. Most are from late 60's and 70's though. This is the oldest bike I have ever owned.
As you can see in my pictures someone painted it with silver paint, I was able to remove some of it however it is also wanting to erase the decals. Should I stop trying to remove the silver paint to reveal the original paint? Are decals available for this bike?
Sorry for so many questions and Thanks for your help.
Brian
As you can see in my pictures someone painted it with silver paint, I was able to remove some of it however it is also wanting to erase the decals. Should I stop trying to remove the silver paint to reveal the original paint? Are decals available for this bike?
Sorry for so many questions and Thanks for your help.
Brian
I think I've seen the chainguard decal offered separately, but can't be positive of the rest of the decals. Come to think of it, I don't think I remember what a 28" roadster of this era would have had as decals. This era also varied their transfers a lot more than the 1960's and 1970's bikes.
I'd suggest photographing whatever you can for reference (post the pics here too). Even if the decals are removed in the process of cleaning off the silver paint, it'll be a win if you can get the silver off without harming the green below.
-Kurt
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That is so cool.
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WHOA that cleaned up very well!!!
What did you use to remove the silver paint?
What did you use to remove the silver paint?
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Lloyds Decals have plenty of decals for your Raleigh. They offer a very good service,
Double lettered serial numbers in the UK are for a decade later but in North America it might be different. I would suggest having both frt and rear hubs the same date means the age of the frame is the same - if not earlier.
Every aspect of the bike is rebuildable. That was the philosophy behind these bikes - dismantle, clean, repack with grease / oil and go for another ten years and then repeat.
Double lettered serial numbers in the UK are for a decade later but in North America it might be different. I would suggest having both frt and rear hubs the same date means the age of the frame is the same - if not earlier.
Every aspect of the bike is rebuildable. That was the philosophy behind these bikes - dismantle, clean, repack with grease / oil and go for another ten years and then repeat.
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I liked these posters so much I miniaturised them and stuck them on my 1933 Sports
Zoom in on the down tube or the cross tube to see the 1930s posters - Resilion, Dunlop. Lucas. Raleigh, Bluemetal and Brooks
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