A Tale of Two 1974 Raleigh Internationals: A study of quality difference
02-07-11, 06:07 PM
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I just filed them away while thinning the lugs.
03-22-11, 08:40 PM
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I just started overhauling my '73 RRA, so shot some pics of it. Weighed the frame as well. Frame with Nuovo Record headset cups in was 4 lbs 7.6 oz.; fork without race was 1 lb 12.7 oz.
A few more here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yv9wjkgoc...uAQme3fYa?dl=0
A few more here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yv9wjkgoc...uAQme3fYa?dl=0
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03-22-11, 08:55 PM
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My '73 Carlton made Raleigh Gran Sport must have been built on a good day... the work is nice and clean and won't take a dime.
Can attest to seeing some less than stellar work on higher end Raleighs I have passed and time to look at.
My 531 framed '55 Lenton is very well put together as it should have been.
Can attest to seeing some less than stellar work on higher end Raleighs I have passed and time to look at.
My 531 framed '55 Lenton is very well put together as it should have been.
03-22-11, 11:27 PM
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Thanks for sharing the photos of the RRA. Looking over my Raleigh bikes they seem to be pretty ok. My Gran Sport has a whole big blob of brass where the seat stays attach to the seat lug.
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That '73 RRA is pretty much the best finishing I've seen from Raleigh on a set of Nervex lugs.
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This is the thread I wanted to resurrect!
Wanted to revive this thread, I liked the observations on different runs of Internationals, and believe it or not, the serial number run was part of why I went and picked this up.
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all the brazing looks fine except that seat cluster to top tube. Looks like they ran out of brazing, and you can see the gap under the point in picture three.
I also wanted to record the general condition, the fork got the worst of it, thin chrome. 😊
I’ll be keeping a build thread here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l-content.html
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Wanted to revive this thread, I liked the observations on different runs of Internationals, and believe it or not, the serial number run was part of why I went and picked this up.
WD4004021
all the brazing looks fine except that seat cluster to top tube. Looks like they ran out of brazing, and you can see the gap under the point in picture three.
I also wanted to record the general condition, the fork got the worst of it, thin chrome. 😊
I’ll be keeping a build thread here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l-content.html
WD4004021
all the brazing looks fine except that seat cluster to top tube. Looks like they ran out of brazing, and you can see the gap under the point in picture three.
I also wanted to record the general condition, the fork got the worst of it, thin chrome. 😊
I’ll be keeping a build thread here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l-content.html
Like yours, the build quality was better than the ones I'd seen before it:
I never pulled the serial, but orcas island has the frame now and could tell us.
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The funny thing is that - long after I forgot about this thread - I wound up with a copper International for a short time too - got rid of it as it didn't fit, and was built as a last-minute guest bike.
Like yours, the build quality was better than the ones I'd seen before it:
I never pulled the serial, but orcas island has the frame now and could tell us.
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Like yours, the build quality was better than the ones I'd seen before it:
I never pulled the serial, but orcas island has the frame now and could tell us.
-Kurt
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https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...vid-build.html
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P.S.: Just realized my domains are having SSL issues which are preventing photos from showing up. Will take care of this ASAP.
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Here is the current build of that chocolate brown International
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06-05-20, 08:27 AM
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I’ll have to ask my brother; I built that bike for him and it’s currently in Portland
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06-05-20, 09:28 AM
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Since these only cap off the tubes and aren't actual plugs, this is nothing worse than cosmetic ugliness. Not a structural concern.
I'd venture to say at least 50% of the forum members' Carlton-built Super Course Mk.II's and Internationals probably have this same cracking...and the ones who don't have it have horribly misshapen caps full of brass globs and file marks.
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I had noticed that when I picked it up, and decided it would likely be ok, since the seat stays to the cluster looked solid. But I did try to highlight them in the pictures, hoping someone with more experience... well, and they did.
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Question - have the photos in the original post popped back up again? I just reinstalled the SSL certs for the domain that the photos are hosted on.
Incidentally, I've also picked up two Pro. Mk.IV's since I started this ancient thread. Any interest in lug closeups? One has been fully chromed, but the other is still in factory finish.
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Incidentally, I've also picked up two Pro. Mk.IV's since I started this ancient thread. Any interest in lug closeups? One has been fully chromed, but the other is still in factory finish.
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