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Old 09-10-19, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
See any potential in stage 15?
Yes.
What'swith the rolleyes? I posted before this Vuelta had even begun.
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Old 09-10-19, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Yes.
What'swith the rolleyes? I posted before this Vuelta had even begun.
Eh, those are still there because of the "picked him only because he's American" comment.

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Old 09-13-19, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
Eh, those are still there because of the "picked him only because he's American" comment.
Well you hardly put him in the list because he won a stage of the Vuelta because he hadn't.
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Old 09-13-19, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Well you hardly put him in the list because he won a stage of the Vuelta because he hadn't.
Well, no. I'm not Kreskin.

But I hardly put him in the list for being American, no more than I did the other two.
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
Well, no. I'm not Kreskin.

But I hardly put him in the list for being American, no more than I did the other two.
Now if you'd put Tadej Pogacar in I'd be impressed, but then he's Slovenian not American.
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Old 09-15-19, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Now if you'd put Tadej Pogacar in I'd be impressed, but then he's Slovenian not American.
Hung up on Americans, are you?
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Old 09-15-19, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
Hung up on Americans, are you?
No, unlike you and your 'list'.
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Old 09-15-19, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
No, unlike you and your 'list'.

There was one American on the list of three. A cyclist that is showing he's a legitimate contender deserving to be in the same mention as the other two. It was YOU that assumed he was only listed because he's an American ...from an American.


A rather glib comment coming from someone that's obviously prejudiced.
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
There was one American on the list of three. A cyclist that is showing he's a legitimate contender deserving to be in the same mention as the other two. It was YOU that assumed he was only listed because he's an American ...from an American.


A rather glib comment coming from someone that's obviously prejudiced.
Kuss hadn't done much which is why I questioned the thinking behind his inclusion. I'm prejudiced against riders on 'most promising' lists that haven't shown much promise. If you eliminate all other reasons for his inclusion then his nationality is the real reason...........obviously.

Why have a list at all? Why not just ask the question in the thread title?
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Old 09-15-19, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Kuss hadn't done much which is why I questioned the thinking behind his inclusion. I'm prejudiced against riders on 'most promising' lists that haven't shown much promise. If you eliminate all other reasons for his inclusion then his nationality is the real reason...........obviously.

Why have a list at all? Why not just ask the question in the thread title?
Now, you're just showing your ignorance. He was included for reasons such as this: https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/08/12/tour-utah/

To suggest he was included because of his nationality is very shallow on your behalf, and frankly ...quite offensive.

It's very obvious what your mentality is here, and I want no part of it. I'm done with you.
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
Now, you're just showing your ignorance. He was included for reasons such as this: https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/08/12/tour-utah/

To suggest he was included because of his nationality is very shallow on your behalf, and frankly ...quite offensive.

It's very obvious what your mentality is here, and I want no part of it. I'm done with you.
I was aware from the start of his performance in the 2018 ToU, a second category stage race. BTW that link doesn't work in Europe.

If you want drop out of this discussion then that's fine by me. I told you why I thought he was the 'odd one out' in that list. You avoided my direct question as to why have a list.

Have a nice day.
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Old 09-17-19, 11:06 AM
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MvDP for the Rainbow! Calling it.
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Old 09-17-19, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CyclingFever
MvDP for the Rainbow! Calling it.
my initial pick as well. we’ve got a ways to go till the race and things could change/happen but yah, mvdp.
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Old 11-17-19, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
Between these 3...

(1) Remco Evenepoel
(2) Sepp Kuss
(3) Mathieu van der Poel
Returning to this old thread to point out something that probably most everybody already knew, but I didn't. van der Poel is Raymond Poulidor's (RIP) grandson.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/van...n-for-grandpa/

Genes count for a lot.
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Old 08-09-20, 02:48 PM
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If he stays healthy, I believe Remco will be the most successful of the three.

Speculation, obviously. But, the sure thing is... time will tell.
After one year, looking pretty good...
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Old 08-09-20, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
After one year, looking pretty good...
Yea, this should be settled if you believe in science and data.
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Old 08-10-20, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke
After one year, looking pretty good...
"pretty good"? Give yourself a bit more credit for your prediction. Remco looks amazing.
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Old 08-10-20, 08:31 PM
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"pretty good"? Give yourself a bit more credit for your prediction. Remco looks amazing.
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Not being a veteran watcher of the races, I noticed that past deeds go way too long way to keep the now 'has beens' in the forefront of the hype, even if they don't perform for a whole season or even years and likely are behind their zenith, and the young upstarts as soon as they show some promise, there is bright future predicted for them. But it mostly doesn't pan out and the star rises from where it wasn't expected. Also very few don't buckle under the expectations placed on them.
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Bernal is only 23, so he IS the next big name. 7 GC, including TDF in just 5 years as Pro.
Pogacar, Remco, Higuita and Martínez are going to make it really hard for him though.
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Sepp Kuss for the win on stage 5, and looking strong....
https://www.velonews.com/training/po...um-du-dauphine
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"all right, well he was a young american..." looking forward to kuss (among a dozen or more of an international contingent) killing it at the tour.

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wout, remco and pogacar have been phenomenal recently. mvdp has been on the down low but not anticipating that lasting long.
martinez obviously ready for france in august/september.
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not saying that a certain percentage of the vets won't be adequately repped at the tour (froomie, valverde, thomas, sagan, etc...) but there
is a bleepload of young talent that is already and has been producing at the highest level. this could very well be a young punks tour and
a definitive changing of the guard. we'll see soon enuff.
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga
not saying that a certain percentage of the vets won't be adequately repped at the tour (froomie, valverde, thomas, sagan, etc...) but there
is a bleepload of young talent that is already and has been producing at the highest level. this could very well be a young punks tour and
a definitive changing of the guard. we'll see soon enuff.
I don't remember a time when the changing of the guard seemed so sudden. Of course, they have to stay healthy and win.....
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