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Old 08-01-20, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Did you ever consider you might be called an old fogey for advocating touring with a GPS?
I don't recall how long ago it was that I carried and used one on a tour and am not sure where mine even is, but... It was really nice to be able to use rechargeable AA or AAA batteries and throw in some alkaline ones in a pinch.
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Old 08-01-20, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Did you ever consider you might be called an old fogey for advocating touring with a GPS?
Yeah, the photo is from 9.5 years ago. GPS with a black and white screen, how quaint.



Originally Posted by staehpj1
I don't recall how long ago it was that I carried and used one on a tour and am not sure where mine even is, but... It was really nice to be able to use rechargeable AA or AAA batteries and throw in some alkaline ones in a pinch.
Was yours about the same vintage as mine?

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I prefer those old black and white screen models for kayaking and canoeing, screen stays on and I would have to take my hand off a paddle to push a button on it to wake up the screen if I had one of my color display ones. Has a long battery life and the black and white screens are quite readable in all light conditions. I used that same GPS on the day I paddled for several hours through the heavy fog on Lake Superior three years ago.

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Old 08-01-20, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
Was yours about the same vintage as mine?
Pretty sure mine was older. I think it might have been this model. Not sure since I owned a few different ones.
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Old 08-01-20, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
The elevation data these programs use is readily available and free.

Some hills that you'd definitely notice on your bicycle can look pretty flat with the Google hill-shading.
Yes, my primary concern is options without a subscription ball and chain. If I need more data, I add another layer and tweak for an easy workload glance. This shot needs more tweaking



or this....


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Old 08-01-20, 10:21 AM
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here's a general observation---generally I find it sufficiently useful even with google maps or whatever that gives you rough estimate of total gain during a days ride.
If I know for instance that a days ride over 75kms I'll be climbing 300 meters, that gives me an idea of how hard the day will be. If its 250 or 350 , then it is what it is and its close enough.
If a day is 50 kms and you'll be climbing 2000 meters, then you know you'll be getting your arse kicked all day and your average speed is going to be a lot slower.

to the fellow asking about this topic, you'll see that if you end up doing this trip,, pretty soon you get a feel for how a day is going to be. You learn to factor in wind, heat, how you are feeling that day etc, and while it can be nice to know that during the next day there is a big climb that tops out at 50kms from where yoiu start, then at least you can watch your bike computer distance and be mentally prepared for the climb and reasonably know when its going to end.

going over a next days ride the evening before when you have access to wifi or simply the time before sleeping if you have data, will at least give you a heads up of the next day. Specifically to this topic, if you make some notes like "climb starts at 30k and finishes at 45k" then this generally will lessen how much you need to use your phone for riding info. Less time phone is on, less time in the sun etc.

but like I said, you'll work it out on the road. And if you are terrible at planning or directionally challenged, well, you're going to have lots of time to improve if you do this trip, so it will all work out.
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Old 08-03-20, 10:55 PM
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I've tried to read every comment, so correct me if I'm wrong, but why is everyone talking about Google Maps? In Europe it is not much help at all. It does not show most bicycle routes or bike friendly roads. There are so many offline, downloadable apps available for free.
I use Maps.Me and it works very well, it even shows MTB and hiking trails.
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Old 08-09-20, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by David78

Last, I should mention that buying all the maps I would need from Adventure Cycling is not an option.
Ride with GPS allows you to download the route (map) to your phone. You don't need service, put the phone into airplane mode. With external connections turned off the phone will be cooler running. Handlebar mode has settings in the Ride with GPS app to turn on an off the screen. It really doesn't take much power, if that the way you need it to run. I think it's $80 a year.

Get a quad lock phone mount system along with the poncho to make it water proof. The poncho has a whitish color to it and that will help reflect solar gain. However, it's a another layer wrapped around the phone, so it might retain heat. You can always wrap the phone in white cloth to reflect solar gain, and just listen to the voice prompts. The complete setup from quad lock is about $75.

We have quad locks on all of our bikes.
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Old 08-09-20, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcusT
I've tried to read every comment, so correct me if I'm wrong, but why is everyone talking about Google Maps? In Europe it is not much help at all. It does not show most bicycle routes or bike friendly roads. There are so many offline, downloadable apps available for free.
I use Maps.Me and it works very well, it even shows MTB and hiking trails.
For what it is worth, I think there is trade off of different programs - so let me first describe what I like about each in the context of touring in South America:
1. Maps.ME is offline, very useful in places without cell coverage. I found the bicycle route choices to generally be unusable since they often go way out of the way and adopt paths that may not even be allowed. The bicycle routes do show an elevation choice so if I can constrain them enough for a short distance, I can get an idea. Otherwise the auto instructions are good.
2. Google Map is online so that doesn't help when I don't have cell coverage - unless I have downloaded in advance. Still don't rely on bicycle route instructions but picking google maps auto instructions w/o interstates is pretty good. Unlike North America, bicycle instructions don't have elevation profiles, but they are better than Maps.ME. In the cities, Google maps is also better at indicating one-way streets.

For Canada+USA, I've found Maps.ME bicycle instructions to still be worse than Google Maps and often prefer the auto instructions in either case. Here it is often a difference between offline and online instructions where I prefer Google maps when online and think Maps.ME is a good solution for offline.
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