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I've gotta join the chorus against the wheel decals. Have you tried hitting them with a heat gun?
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I am gonna stand up and vote for the decals. I get the irony and I think it looks cool. I am pretty sure they make you faster too, the raised edges serve the same purpose as the dimples on a golf ball.
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Hey, it's a winter bike. Any extra stickers protect the frame (or in this case, wheels) itself from damage/corrosion (I know, I know, the rims are aluminum, but that's my point and I'm sticking to it). Sticker that baby up.
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@RiddleOfSteel I like it a lot! Decals or no decals it looks great.
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I hadn't noticed the XT rear derailleur and the big cassette until now. That I like.
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Guys, we are missing the big faux pas. No, not the wheel decals.
Look at the small chainring big cog combo for the photo. Who is going to go fast like that???
Look at the small chainring big cog combo for the photo. Who is going to go fast like that???
I love all the wacky paint schemes of this era, especially on high end bikes. Looks great!
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
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Oh, hey now, guys! Don't be a bunch of sticks in the mud! You're missing the humor in having wheels that visually loud on a vintage touring bike (with 'go fast' components).
I've tried picking off one corner (a while ago), and got a few mm square section. Thick decals that are on pretty well. And this wheel not being brand new, there will be a paint intensity difference. I don't want that. I have a newer set of these, with much more subdued graphics (on my Marinoni). Maybe I'll switch one day. I understand where you all are coming from, and you can rest assured that I am not the Desecrator of Revered Steel as shown by all my other bikes. For now though, this Miyata and I are on a mission from God. There is no penguin that has sent me, but I am sent on the penguin-colored bicycle to show all those newfangled steel and aluminum steeds what's what.
I've tried picking off one corner (a while ago), and got a few mm square section. Thick decals that are on pretty well. And this wheel not being brand new, there will be a paint intensity difference. I don't want that. I have a newer set of these, with much more subdued graphics (on my Marinoni). Maybe I'll switch one day. I understand where you all are coming from, and you can rest assured that I am not the Desecrator of Revered Steel as shown by all my other bikes. For now though, this Miyata and I are on a mission from God. There is no penguin that has sent me, but I am sent on the penguin-colored bicycle to show all those newfangled steel and aluminum steeds what's what.
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Is the front fender on correctly? It seems really close to the ground. Maybe the bracket should be attached in front of the fork. Maybe not.
I love all the wacky paint schemes of this era, especially on high end bikes. Looks great!
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
So, my 1984 Miyata 610 is making the rounds here as I have completed, gone on a few test rides, and then took it for a longer trip today. The bike is fantastic and I really like the way it looks. What started out as "let's make a modernized touring bike into a winter/rain bike with cantis and ample fender clearance, with as much Dura-Ace as I can shrewdly locate" turned into "ok, there's my 7900 DA shifters that I wanted to use and most everything else is bought." Wheels, tires, STIs, pedals, drop bars, stem, and seat post were original. Brakes are Deore LX (M560), RD is a 9-speed XT (M772 w/ GS cage) bought new, FSA (more) Energy cranks running 36/50T rings, 5700-era Shimano 105 front derailleur, and an 11-36T 10-speed cassette. Frame is powder coated and re-decal'ed as the original blue paint and decals were toast. So yeah, we'll going touring and winter commuting...quickly.
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Yes, it's correct. Some people like long fenders. More coverage means less splash. The downsides are cost and convenience when removing the front wheel.
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The semi-rigid nature of those SKS flaps make it harder to fit in a full length bike rack “tray”, but I know @RiddleOfSteel would never desecrate his beloved Camaro with a roof rack!
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The semi-rigid nature of those SKS flaps make it harder to fit in a full length bike rack “tray”, but I know @RiddleOfSteel would never desecrate his beloved Camaro with a roof rack!
I had this happen with the SKS Longboards on my Grand Record last summer:
I guess I had enough of a gap to avoid triggering the release mechanism because this just rubbed the tire and brought me to a slow and painless stop. A couple of months later while riding the CZ Trail with some C&Vers I heard an awful racket of rattling plastic coming from a bike behind me. I turned around to find nazcalines had caught a stick with his fender that did trigger the release mechanism. It was noisy, but the release tab did its job.
The results without a quick release can be extremely bad.
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@RiddleOfSteel I like it a lot! Decals or no decals it looks great.
Haha, yes they do!
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That’s the way SKS fenders fit when I used them on my wife’s bike. As @noglider points out, having the fender flap near the ground does a great job keeping feet dry.
The semi-rigid nature of those SKS flaps make it harder to fit in a full length bike rack “tray”, but I know @RiddleOfSteel would never desecrate his beloved Camaro with a roof rack!
The semi-rigid nature of those SKS flaps make it harder to fit in a full length bike rack “tray”, but I know @RiddleOfSteel would never desecrate his beloved Camaro with a roof rack!
The other thing the "semi-rigid" nature of the flap does is make the fender into a fairly efficient scoop. This is worth noting because I don't see SKS's safety release on the front fender mount. Am I just missing it somehow?
I guess I had enough of a gap to avoid triggering the release mechanism because this just rubbed the tire and brought me to a slow and painless stop. A couple of months later while riding the CZ Trail with some C&Vers I heard an awful racket of rattling plastic coming from a bike behind me. I turned around to find nazcalines had caught a stick with his fender that did trigger the release mechanism. It was noisy, but the release tab did its job.
The results without a quick release can be extremely bad.
I guess I had enough of a gap to avoid triggering the release mechanism because this just rubbed the tire and brought me to a slow and painless stop. A couple of months later while riding the CZ Trail with some C&Vers I heard an awful racket of rattling plastic coming from a bike behind me. I turned around to find nazcalines had caught a stick with his fender that did trigger the release mechanism. It was noisy, but the release tab did its job.
The results without a quick release can be extremely bad.
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Bianchi Sport SX
I built this up last winter and it's been my main ride this year with nearly 3,000 miles so far. It fits me like a glove and has reassuringly predictable handling. The Salsa Cowbell handlebar is super comfortable and the new Tiagra 4700 shifts flawlessly. Wheels are hand built with Sun rims and Dura Ace 7400 hubs. Not a lightweight build at ~23lbs but just what I need for daily road rides.
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I built this up last winter and it's been my main ride this year with nearly 3,000 miles so far. It fits me like a glove and has reassuringly predictable handling. The Salsa Cowbell handlebar is super comfortable and the new Tiagra 4700 shifts flawlessly. Wheels are hand built with Sun rims and Dura Ace 7400 hubs. Not a lightweight build at ~23lbs but just what I need for daily road rides.
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Beautiful Bianchi! That Tiagra group looks right at home on it. I tend to think that modern all-black groupsets have been a blessing to Bianchi's in that Celeste looked/looks great with silver components back when they were new, but black components look great now that the bikes are C&V, giving them a sort of new aesthetic life. The contrast really pops. Plus, with Tiagra, you aren't spending a million dollars to look really good! 23 lbs, to me, is a very good weight to be at for a classic steel bike, especially with STIs and 10 speeds out back. The shift levers, in combination with the stem conversion, add up to make a really really nice and 'sure' feeling front end, both in and out of the saddle. Glad it has been so good for you; may it continue to be for many years to come!
I agree this is a really affordable way for the mechanically inclined to procure an excellent performing bike. Especially with fantastic affordable modern group sets so readily available.
I also agree that the modern stem instills confidence. I had a traditional quill initially, which was fine, but I did notice the difference when I switched while riding aggressively.
This frame came to me in rough shape. I should pay some pics on the before and after thread later...
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Another vote to keep the decals and you are right, Winter rain crud will tone them down in no time at all.
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I updated this 1989 Team Miyata with Campagnolo Athena. It's my first bike with brifters or a compact crankset. I can't say I think either one is that great.
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