Recommendations for top-notch C&V painter for Raleigh Pro top tube repaint
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Recommendations for top-notch C&V painter for Raleigh Pro top tube repaint
I've come to understand that the paint on the top tube of my '75 Raleigh Pro has had it and it needs the skills of a pro (pun not intended) to fix it.
That said, it's been a while since I've been in the C&V field and I know a lot of painters have come and gone. Hence, I'd like to pick the brain of the forum, as I have some reasonably specific demands of the person chosen for the job:
Examples would be great - leads to contact the painter, even better.
-Kurt
That said, it's been a while since I've been in the C&V field and I know a lot of painters have come and gone. Hence, I'd like to pick the brain of the forum, as I have some reasonably specific demands of the person chosen for the job:
- The painter has to be skilled in the ability of doing a top tube respray between lugs.
- The painter has to know how to mask off lugs correctly so the new paint doesn't clump at the lug edge.
- The painter has to know how to match the original color passably.
- The painter has to know how to spray THIN single-stage that looks more or less like the crap paint that Raleigh used to spray.
- No flakes who can't keep a deadline.
Examples would be great - leads to contact the painter, even better.
-Kurt
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I've never had a frame painted, partial or complete. That said, these two names come up frequently:You may know Bob Freeman from Classic Rendezvous (now retired owner of the closed Elliott Bay Cycles in Seattle). I believe for the past couple years he's been sending most/all his restorations to Franklin for paint. You'll have to pick through things, but Bob's Flickr albums are full of his restoration work. I suspect some of the descriptions will identify the painter.
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Just curious, are you willing to ship it to get the job done?
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Litton is Merz's go to but Jim gets very good service if you know what I mean.
Spectrum, Waterford, Chester Cycles and Yellow Jersey also come to mind.
Black Magic, Hot Tubes, Joe Bell and Cycle Art as well.
Yep, Bob uses Franklin.
Spectrum, Waterford, Chester Cycles and Yellow Jersey also come to mind.
Black Magic, Hot Tubes, Joe Bell and Cycle Art as well.
Yep, Bob uses Franklin.
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Don't be surprised if high end painters tell you they won't do that, paint only the top tube. They can't very well be known for doing it right if they let customers tell them how to do it.
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I've never had a frame painted, partial or complete. That said, these two names come up frequently:You may know Bob Freeman from Classic Rendezvous (now retired owner of the closed Elliott Bay Cycles in Seattle). I believe for the past couple years he's been sending most/all his restorations to Franklin for paint. You'll have to pick through things, but Bob's Flickr albums are full of his restoration work. I suspect some of the descriptions will identify the painter.
Yes. I certainly don't expect to find these skills available locally. Granted, Gary Cole was local, but he's retired.
P.S.: CycleArt's jobs usually look like they're dumped in clear honey. Not a fan.
-Kurt
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Perfect, thanks.
Yes. I certainly don't expect to find these skills available locally. Granted, Gary Cole was local, but he's retired.
I'll weed through these, thanks! Question though...Waterford would do a Raleigh?
P.S.: CycleArt's jobs usually look like they're dumped in clear honey. Not a fan.
It's been done before, and I've seen a few examples of just that by Gary Cole. I'd rather let the individual painter tell me what their personal recommendations are given the particular bike and its paint damage.
-Kurt
Yes. I certainly don't expect to find these skills available locally. Granted, Gary Cole was local, but he's retired.
I'll weed through these, thanks! Question though...Waterford would do a Raleigh?
P.S.: CycleArt's jobs usually look like they're dumped in clear honey. Not a fan.
It's been done before, and I've seen a few examples of just that by Gary Cole. I'd rather let the individual painter tell me what their personal recommendations are given the particular bike and its paint damage.
-Kurt
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Good luck. That is one bike that I'd love to own one day, one of those Raleigh Pros. The paint aesthetics are a very big part of their attraction, the color and such.
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And of all the painters mentioned, I can personally recommend Franklin. They do a great job.
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The Mk.V's were much more aggressive - and if mine is of any indication, it feels like it too.
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Al Wanta in Clearwater. He repainted the top tube of my Pelizzoli after brazing on cable guides and did a perfect job. Impressive, especially when you consider that the color is a Euro-only Daihatsu color.
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I reached out to him. Kinda like the idea of it being in the same state...easier to chase after him if it goes wrong
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Waterford just posted a Raleigh Pro they restored.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMfJpVF...=1w7gy6z8awqcl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMfJpVF...=1w7gy6z8awqcl
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Waterford just posted a Raleigh Pro they restored.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMfJpVF...=1w7gy6z8awqcl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMfJpVF...=1w7gy6z8awqcl
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Looks very nice, if a bit glossy - but not distractingly so. Very beautiful. Wonder why they omitted the gold headlug lining.
Still...shame on them for that dull, Craigslist-fresh headbadge and those screws in place of the factory rivets. That's a huge oversight after all that work on the frame, and it's front and center in this picture
If anything, I'm partial to the job they did on the Lou Sebo '60 Paramount for @Ct03911 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...early-60s.html). If there's one thing Waterford does know, it's their heritage.
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Still...shame on them for that dull, Craigslist-fresh headbadge and those screws in place of the factory rivets. That's a huge oversight after all that work on the frame, and it's front and center in this picture
If anything, I'm partial to the job they did on the Lou Sebo '60 Paramount for @Ct03911 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...early-60s.html). If there's one thing Waterford does know, it's their heritage.
-Kurt
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Looks very nice, if a bit glossy - but not distractingly so. Very beautiful. Wonder why they omitted the gold headlug lining.
Still...shame on them for that dull, Craigslist-fresh headbadge and those screws in place of the factory rivets. That's a huge oversight after all that work on the frame, and it's front and center in this picture
If anything, I'm partial to the job they did on the Lou Sebo '60 Paramount for @Ct03911 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...early-60s.html). If there's one thing Waterford does know, it's their heritage.
-Kurt
Still...shame on them for that dull, Craigslist-fresh headbadge and those screws in place of the factory rivets. That's a huge oversight after all that work on the frame, and it's front and center in this picture
If anything, I'm partial to the job they did on the Lou Sebo '60 Paramount for @Ct03911 (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...early-60s.html). If there's one thing Waterford does know, it's their heritage.
-Kurt
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For C&V paint touch-ups, I highly recommend Duane at chestercycles.com. He's done several frames for me, including one full repaint and his work is superb. He's in southern Wisconsin now, just moved from the Chicago area.
Here's a before and after of his work:
UPDATE: The three Duane touched up will be at Coppi, 2 Lemonds and a Masi. The full repaint he did on the Pinarello will be there too. Duane is planning to be there as well, so you can talk directly to him.
Here's a before and after of his work:
UPDATE: The three Duane touched up will be at Coppi, 2 Lemonds and a Masi. The full repaint he did on the Pinarello will be there too. Duane is planning to be there as well, so you can talk directly to him.
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For C&V paint touch-ups, I highly recommend Duane at chestercycles.com. He's done several frames for me, including one full repaint and his work is superb. He's in southern Wisconsin now, just moved from the Chicago area.
Here's a before and after of his work:
UPDATE: The three Duane touched up will be at Coppi, 2 Lemonds and a Masi. The full repaint he did on the Pinarello will be there too. Duane is planning to be there as well, so you can talk directly to him.
Here's a before and after of his work:
UPDATE: The three Duane touched up will be at Coppi, 2 Lemonds and a Masi. The full repaint he did on the Pinarello will be there too. Duane is planning to be there as well, so you can talk directly to him.
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I like Groody Bros in Kansas City as well. Powder Coat though, it'd be a total paint job.
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Either that or he didn't want to install my decals.
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Duane moved to Wisconsin and was initially going to do only touch-up. He's now got a paint booth set up and told me that he will do a limited number of full repaints in addition to touch-up work.
He was winding things down in anticipation of the move, I had to hurry and get my frame to him so he could finish it before the booth was disassembled.
He's definitely still doing the work. And great work it is.
He was winding things down in anticipation of the move, I had to hurry and get my frame to him so he could finish it before the booth was disassembled.
He's definitely still doing the work. And great work it is.
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