Something I've seen on recumbent trikes, but can't find to buy
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I love thread drift (sometimes). We started out talking about recumbent trike hubs and ended up talking about Miata option packages. Serendipity.
FWIW: I sat in a first generation Miata once. The windshield header was even with my eyeballs.
FWIW: I sat in a first generation Miata once. The windshield header was even with my eyeballs.
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Wheels can tolerate a decent amount od side force. In any case, side force is limited by traction and the tip/slide ratio of the loaded trike.
BITD upright racing trikes with tangent spoked wheels were routinely lifted onto the inside wheel for high speed cornering. Otherwise, cornering speed had to be limited to avoid tipping.
BITD upright racing trikes with tangent spoked wheels were routinely lifted onto the inside wheel for high speed cornering. Otherwise, cornering speed had to be limited to avoid tipping.
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I'd have thought you'd let the inside wheel lift slightly - your centre of mass would then be inside a line between the remaining contact patches, effectively leaning into the corner more. I know trike racers hang off in corners and I've seen them lifting the nds wheel, but I imagine it's fairly important to keep the ds wheel on the ground. I can 2-wheel a trike but only on the drive side (I never tried the other side, or a 2wd trike).
On descents, or if the inside wheel is driving, lifting the outside wheel and riding the inside wheel like a bike, is easiest and allows highest cornering speed.
As you point out, one can also move the body to low and inside, as you would on a Hobie Cat, to keep the outside, driving wheel down, and prevent inside wheel lift. However, this is limited by how far one can contort and still pedal. If there's already good speed entering a sharp curve, lifting onto the inside wheel, and coasting through may be fastest.
So, in trike racing, as in life, the key is in best adapting to various situations.
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