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Negotiation:how much is too much?

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Old 10-25-20, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Do you want a bike now, or in July?
Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
i can wait
If you wait till July, you might be able to get the Trek at 10% off.

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Old 10-25-20, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR
Please stop or he'll continue to post in this topic.

OK, we're done here.









































Or are we?
who says it’s a he? Some strong assumptions going on here
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Old 10-25-20, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
i can wait
If you can wait eight months, I don't think you're really in the market for a bike right now.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
If you can wait eight months, I don't think you're really in the market for a bike right now.
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Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
who says it’s a he? Some strong assumptions going on here
Sorry, there are now so many sexual identity pronouns, so i'll just refer to you as "Ze".



So are we done or will "Ze" change "Ze's" mind?
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Originally Posted by GlennR
Sorry, there are now so many sexual identity pronouns, so i'll just refer to you as "Ze".



So are we done or will "Ze" change "Ze's" mind?
So funny I forgot to laugh :/
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I place high value on having good relationships with my shops. When I come in for service and repairs, I get pretty fast treatment – they often do work while I wait, which is convenient since I live a fair distance from the city. They also have gone to bat for me on warranty issues and such - one shop even got me a new wheel when the original one failed, even though we were past the warranty period. They wanted to do it. In fact, the last shop from which I bought a new bike has given me unbelievable after-the-sale service. This is all extra valuable to me because, unlike the OP, I’m willing to admit that I am not much of a bike mechanic.

I suspect these shops are willing to give me such great treatment because I pay the asking price and don’t haggle as if we are in a Third World country. I also routinely bring beer and snacks for the mechanics and just give them cash tips occasionally.

If you are not cheap with people, and treat them as if they actually deserve to make a decent living, they will, in turn, treat you very nicely.
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I place high value on having good relationships with my shops. When I come in for service and repairs, I get pretty fast treatment – they often do work while I wait, which is convenient since I live a fair distance from the city. They also have gone to bat for me on warranty issues and such - one shop even got me a new wheel when the original one failed, even though we were past the warranty period. They wanted to do it. In fact, the last shop from which I bought a new bike has given me unbelievable after-the-sale service. This is all extra valuable to me because, unlike the OP, I’m willing to admit that I am not much of a bike mechanic.

I suspect these shops are willing to give me such great treatment because I pay the asking price and don’t haggle as if we are in a Third World country. I also routinely bring beer and snacks for the mechanics and just give them cash tips occasionally.

If you are not cheap with people, and treat them as if they actually deserve to make a decent living, they will, in turn, treat you very nicely.
they exist to sell me stuff and i get special treatment if I pay them? What a deal lmao.
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Old 10-25-20, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
they exist to sell me stuff and i get special treatment if I pay them? What a deal lmao.
Treat people the way you would like to be treated, and they will reciprocate. See how that works?
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Treat people the way you would like to be treated, and they will reciprocate. See how that works?
If I pay 3000 euros for a bike and I get the occasional favour in return I’m not really sure if it’s worth it lol. Sounds like a not so good deal
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Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
seems like nobody actually told me how much to offer, but everybody told me I shouldn’t do it because of coronavirus
Ouch, I actually gave you a good logical answer back at post 3.

It seems like you just want to argue now.
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Old 10-25-20, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by katsup
Ouch, I actually gave you a good logical answer back at post 3.

It seems like you just want to argue now.
well thanks for your post, but after 5 pages of “are you crazy bike shop owners have to make a living! How could you even think of negotiating” I am tired. Yes they have to make a living but I’m not going to pity them and treat them like Girl Scouts who sell overpriced cookies.
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Originally Posted by ritzkraft79
well thanks for your post, but after 5 pages of “are you crazy bike shop owners have to make a living! How could you even think of negotiating” I am tired. Yes they have to make a living but I’m not going to pity them and treat them like Girl Scouts who sell overpriced cookies.
So are you actually going to buy a bike? Or are you going to totally seriously buy a bike in July because you don't like the prices of any bike you can actually buy now?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
So are you actually going to buy a bike? Or are you going to totally seriously buy a bike in July because you don't like the prices of any bike you can actually buy now?
if I’m gonna get a much better deal in 9 months then I’m gonna wait tbh. Not gonna get ass ***d by paying MSRP for a bike. are you kidding? Canyon seems like the best deal.

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