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I feel absolutely comfortable spinning in those regions, but for whatever reason, it just puts me closer to the redline; I think at some point I'm just spending too much energy keeping my legs from flying out of orbit.
Interesting. Have you tried with Slope mode? I've never experienced it but, at the risk of sounding like a trainer retrogrouch, the ERG relationship of power, torque and cadence just seems at odds with on-road physics. It seems... unnatural to me.
Do you have a decent fan? I sweat like mad, but a box fan in a 70° room is okay (no shirt, either). Of course the room is a few degrees warmer by the time I'm done.
I’ve noticed it’s way harder to hold on for an interval in ERG than a similar effort would be outside. I haven’t don’t an indoor FTP test, but dropped 10w from outside to get an idea (and updated my intervals profile to match). I think the thing that kills me is temperature control, even in a 45 degree garage I was dying of heat.
Do you have a decent fan? I sweat like mad, but a box fan in a 70° room is okay (no shirt, either). Of course the room is a few degrees warmer by the time I'm done.
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I spent the season trying to get my cadence under stress down from 100-110 to 85-95, with higher bursts in sprints. I've done it and I think I'm stronger as a result, but there's a lot else going on.
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Yeah, sprints are a different story - 120 isn't atypical - but I, too, feel like I need to make a point of staying in that 90 region, even at higher outputs. Most of my rides with higher NPs have been at times when I've made of point of keeping my cadence in that area.
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No kidding. This butter churner has to work to keep it above 80 during my Z2 nonsense.
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And outdoors, there's nowhere I can hammer for 20' and be safe.
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Oh, for something like z2, 100 would drive me nuts - high cadence and low power is annoying. I'd probably land at 80 or lower. Actually, looking at a ride with one of my less fit friends, I averaged 76rpm.
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Oh and I find slope mode more comfortable now.
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Prolly why my FTP is lackluster.
Yeah, sprints are a different story - 120 isn't atypical - but I, too, feel like I need to make a point of staying in that 90 region, even at higher outputs. Most of my rides with higher NPs have been at times when I've made of point of keeping my cadence in that area.
Yeah, sprints are a different story - 120 isn't atypical - but I, too, feel like I need to make a point of staying in that 90 region, even at higher outputs. Most of my rides with higher NPs have been at times when I've made of point of keeping my cadence in that area.
I simply needed leg strength to turn bigger gears before I could slow down.
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I only have a dumb trainer and no power meter, but I did two FTP Ramp tests a week apart , on two different bikes, on Zwift, using Zpower, and speed, cadence and HR sensors and got numbers within 6w of each other. SO then I tried a SST session and crapped out after 10 minutes. So I set it 20W lower, and tried The Gorby, which I successfully completed. So I'm thinking the first number might be too high and the second too low.
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You need a cold hurricane. The STers have it down to a science. My solution is window open, house fan on, absurdly-powerful Costco fan pointed at me, and that only works when it's below 50* outside. Above that works, but power is capped and dropping. In the old house, the trainer room was at the bottom and well-insulated, and it worked if I just ran the AC full-throttle throughout. The key is to have fresh air with a cross-breeze through the room, and a huge airflow over your body. And it has to be cold. That's why it's only now that I can really do an FTP test.
And outdoors, there's nowhere I can hammer for 20' and be safe.
And outdoors, there's nowhere I can hammer for 20' and be safe.
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I feel absolutely comfortable spinning in those regions, but for whatever reason, it just puts me closer to the redline; I think at some point I'm just spending too much energy keeping my legs from flying out of orbit.
Interesting. Have you tried with Slope mode? I've never experienced it but, at the risk of sounding like a trainer retrogrouch, the ERG relationship of power, torque and cadence just seems at odds with on-road physics. It seems... unnatural to me.
Do you have a decent fan? I sweat like mad, but a box fan in a 70° room is okay (no shirt, either). Of course the room is a few degrees warmer by the time I'm done.
Interesting. Have you tried with Slope mode? I've never experienced it but, at the risk of sounding like a trainer retrogrouch, the ERG relationship of power, torque and cadence just seems at odds with on-road physics. It seems... unnatural to me.
Do you have a decent fan? I sweat like mad, but a box fan in a 70° room is okay (no shirt, either). Of course the room is a few degrees warmer by the time I'm done.
I haven’t tried slope
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What would happen if I got one of these railbikes and started pedaling on the nearby tracks? Are there railroad police that would arrest me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8mhIdZoVow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8mhIdZoVow
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I was amused to see Kickr selling a 'smart fan' for $250, which connects to your trainer to tailor the blowage to the wattage. I have a pair of real cheap Home Depot fans which I consider to be a lot smarter than $250.
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I have a great fan that we refer to as the “tower of power”, it’s just sitting in the box in the attic right now
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I have been impressed by my ability to make my normally cool and fairly dry finished garage hot and swampy after a hour on Zwift. My "Pain Cave" turns into a Pain Swamp.
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What would happen if I got one of these railbikes and started pedaling on the nearby tracks? Are there railroad police that would arrest me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8mhIdZoVow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8mhIdZoVow
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Prolly.
When training for IMChoo the first time, AG would do five-hour trainer rides in the poorly-ventilated apartment we were in. I don't know how she did it, but she did, and I swear she sucked all the oxygen out of the room.
When training for IMChoo the first time, AG would do five-hour trainer rides in the poorly-ventilated apartment we were in. I don't know how she did it, but she did, and I swear she sucked all the oxygen out of the room.
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Because it would be a nice change of pace to do a "flat" ride without traffic.