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Old 01-01-19, 08:42 AM
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Need diameter measurement info for wider 700c (29er) tires

I'm upgrading a 29er and want to mount wider tires than the originals 35-622s. Width is not an issue; the limiting factor is the diameter of the tire. I figure that my max diameter is about 720mm, equivalent to a circumference of 2260mm. Browsing the websites of manufacturers (and other "authorities") leads me to believe that ISO widths of up to 50 may be possible; however the available info is inconsistent. I was hoping to get some feedback from actual users.

I would very much appreciate anybody using tires of ISO 45-622 to 50-622 taking the time to measure and post diameter or circumference of mounted tires. Also include manufacturer, model, ISO designation, and also what rim they are mounted on.

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I'll check back in with you in a couple of days. I have a Trek DS 8.4 that came with 700x38 on it I ordered some Schwalbe Hurricanes 29x2.0 which are actually 50mm wide that were supposed to be here yesterday but bad weather has delayed delivery.. In the Hybrid forum I was told they'd fit, we'll see .
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Just grabbed a rough estimate from my 29er front tire, distance from center of wheel to outer tire is about 35.5cm (radius) so about 710mm diameter.

Continental xking 2.2" (55-622) mounted on giant s-xc2 rims, I think they have a 17mm internal rim width.
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ETRTO data is marked on the side of the tire .. 29er bead seat is 622 - ( xx ) XX being width in mm..
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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver
the limiting factor is the diameter of the tire
why would this be the case?
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dunno if this will help you. just measured what I have handy outside

50 622
28x2
schwalbe marathon winter studded tires
at 30psi

approx diameter 28 3/8" or 720mm?
maybe a tiny bit larger cuz my ruler's left edge was to one side of the front axle





on these Alex rims


& fwiw ~ this is their width measured (47mm?) when mounted at 40psi


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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
why would this be the case?
Because of the limited distance between axle and fork crown (front) and bridges (back). Too tall of a tire would rub.
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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver
Because of the limited distance between axle and fork crown (front) and bridges (back). Too tall of a tire would rub.
what 29er do you have? on my GT the closest point seems to be the chain stay

these are my 29x2.25 Riddlers. this angled thing is a DIY debris deflector


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Rim widths matter too. Most 29ers should be able to take a 2.1 to 2.4. Your 29er came with 35 mm tires? So that is a road bike or hybrid? Make and model of your ride?
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This is a useful utility:

https://www.yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

Enter wheel size and tire width and it will give a wheel diameter and radius. Not possible to be spot on every time. My experience is the numbers are usually a bit high and rarely too low.
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Surly has a table for their tires on their website but it might be easier to find via Google.

It seems like sometimes manufacturers will list the width at the lugs (Kenda) and some the width of the carcass (WTB)
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Originally Posted by 308jerry
I'll check back in with you in a couple of days. I have a Trek DS 8.4 that came with 700x38 on it I ordered some Schwalbe Hurricanes 29x2.0 which are actually 50mm wide that were supposed to be here yesterday but bad weather has delayed delivery.. In the Hybrid forum I was told they'd fit, we'll see .
Have you gotten them yet? Those tires at that size is on my list of possibilities.
Originally Posted by GrainBrain
Just grabbed a rough estimate from my 29er front tire, distance from center of wheel to outer tire is about 35.5cm (radius) so about 710mm diameter.Continental xking 2.2" (55-622) mounted on giant s-xc2 rims, I think they have a 17mm internal rim width.
Thanks
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
dunno if this will help you. just measured what I have handy outside

50 622
28x2
schwalbe marathon winter studded tires
at 30psi

approx diameter 28 3/8" or 720mm? maybe a tiny bit larger cuz my ruler's left edge was to one side of the front axle on these Alex rims & fwiw ~ this is their width measured (47mm?) when mounted at 40psi
Thanks. The pics were great. 720mm would allow me about 5 mm clearance at closest interfering point.
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
what 29er do you have? on my GT the closest point seems to be the chain stay these are my 29x2.25 Riddlers. this angled thing is a DIY debris deflector
My closest point is the seat stay bridge but by only a few mm over the fork crown and the chainstay bridge
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Rim widths matter too. Most 29ers should be able to take a 2.1 to 2.4. Your 29er came with 35 mm tires? So that is a road bike or hybrid? Make and model of your ride?
Bike is a 2014 Kona Dew, which I bought on CL for a give-away price. The plan is to strip it of all the lower level components and build it as a bike that will handle a rougher terrain better than the road bike that I use as a "gravel" bike. It's a hybrid, but definitely marketed as more of an urban bike. It rides well and I think with a bit of tweaking it will be a nice bargain addition to the stable. The more recent Dews are fitted with wider 650b tires. Since I'm building new wheels for the upgrade, I had thought about going the 650b route, but this frame has v-brakes, not disk, so not so easy.

Originally Posted by 63rickert
This is a useful utility:
Bicycle Trail Calculator | yojimg.net
Enter wheel size and tire width and it will give a wheel diameter and radius. Not possible to be spot on every time. My experience is the numbers are usually a bit high and rarely too low.
Thanks, You're right, the numbers seem high compared to some of the manufacturer's data.


Browsing around, I found this Wheel Diameter Visualizer. Developed by Dan Stroud. Neat stuff. He has a tire measurement database that has a lot of info but needs to be fleshed out a bit for some manufacturers, hence is invitation to add data.

Thanks to all who have responded
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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver
Have you gotten them yet? Those tires at that size is on my list of possibilities.

Thanks

Thanks. The pics were great. 720mm would allow me about 5 mm clearance at closest interfering point.

My closest point is the seat stay bridge but by only a few mm over the fork crown and the chainstay bridge

Got one of the Schwalbe Hurricanes put on tonight. With 48 psi in them on 17mm wide rims they measure a tick under 2 inches wide on the lugs and right at 28 and 3/8ths inches tall. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by 308jerry
Got one of the Schwalbe Hurricanes put on tonight. With 48 psi in them on 17mm wide rims they measure a tick under 2 inches wide on the lugs and right at 28 and 3/8ths inches tall. Hope that helps.
Yes it does. The diameter you measured is right at my limit, but would still fit. I'll be using 22mm rims, though, which should result in the tires being wider and have lower diameter.

Thanks
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