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Old 02-08-19, 07:08 AM
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Leather saddles

Are leather saddle riders a fringe group? once I started riding leather, I also ditched padded shorts. It took a while to condition myself to the saddles but once that was over, I found rides to be cooler and much more comfortable.

My wife and I run B-17 Imperials on our mountain tandem.
My bikepacking Foundry Firetower has a Rivet Imogene.
My mountain "play" Surly Karate Monkey has a Rivet Pearl.
My giant TCR road bike has a Rivet Imogene.
I think our road tandem is the only one with traditional saddles.
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Old 02-08-19, 07:30 AM
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My wife and I tour every year at least 2-3 month trips. We both have B17's that I modified with copper rivets. I often will ride with just my commuter knickers but sometimes add my padded shorts. A few summers ago we were riding across Canada and I rode eithwit my padded shorts for the first 1300 miles but then added the padding!
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I love my B17, just picked it up. Want to get the copper rivets also, but once broke in there is no going back.
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Old 02-08-19, 08:13 AM
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Selle Anatomica on 3 of the bikes here-- a Titanico H on my do-it-all bike, a Titanico X on the backup bike, and an NSX on the wife's bike. Came within inches of buying one of the rubber-topped new ones, so I don't have to put a baggy over mine on rainy days.
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I have a mixture of Selle Anatomica and Brooks B17 on my bikes and find both saddles very comfortable. Leather saddles can also be seen on a lot of the bikes pictured in the Classic and Vintage Forum.
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Old 02-08-19, 08:35 AM
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One of Grant Peterson's rules for happy biking said something to the effect that if you have multiple bikes they should have different tire, handlebars, gearing, etc. But always ride your favorite saddle. I settled on the B-17 almost 20 years ago, and it is the only saddle I will ride, I have the sprung and standard versions, even a B-17 narrow on a drop bar road bike. Gave up on padded shorts 10 or 12 years ago. If any biker friends stop by the house the first thing they point out is every bike in the garage has a Brooks.
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Old 02-08-19, 12:30 PM
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No after Selle Royale Bought out Brooks , they introduced a lot of different leather colors , and made them quite fashionable ..


look at the abundant back threads on them on this site alone, and you can see , it worked well..

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a lot of companies want a segment of the leather saddle market, Now,,


I have a Team Professional I got in the 70's ... the Ford model T analogy 'any color you want, as long as it's Black'...




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Old 02-08-19, 12:49 PM
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I don't believe I've ever seen a bicycle saddle with fringe.
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Tensioned leather saddle business booming? Plenty of suppliers wanting a piece of the action these days.

Berthoud - France
Brooks - UK
Gyes (Cardiff, Dia Compe, Fyxation, Origin8, Papillionaire, Rivet, Shinola, Spa, Torelli, Velo Orange)- Taiwan
Ideale - France
Lepper - The Netherlands
Nasiruddin (Persons) - India
Selle Italia - Italy
Selle Anatomica - USA
Selle Monte Grappa - Italy
Tabor - Portugal
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I have 4 SA saddles on 7 of my bikes. Comfy, right out of the box. Always ride with padded cycling shorts. I beleive it is one of the cycling rules , when riding road bikes. KB
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Old 02-08-19, 08:02 PM
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I have a B67 on my city bike, and I ride in whatever I'm wearing. I haven't ridden it much and I may not live long enough to break it in, but I like it anyway.
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Are leather saddles a fringe group? Nowadays I'd say, yes? "I" don't see many riders with a leather saddle. I think they are looked upon like LP's, roll-up windows, cassette tapes and Hai Karate aftershave. You know, "Oh yeah, my dad used to use those when he was a kid".

For folks that ride them, we love them! Anyone that bothers to take the dive and get a good Brooks and takes the effort and pain to break it in right is usually surprised how comfortable a hard leather hatchet, er, saddle can be to ride on.

I have five Brooks. One Pro, three B17's and a Cambium. I actually really like the Cambium. It's pretty darn comfortable for a plastic saddle. I have it on my fixed gear bike because it can survive the beats and dings and it looks retro-modern-steampunk cool. Young riders actually do eye that Cambium on my black Wabi...

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Old 02-08-19, 09:09 PM
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2 B17s and a Brooks Professional on vintage bikes, 1 Specialized Avatar, 1 Ergon, 1 Prologo Evo, all on modern bikes. I love the Brooks, and thought of Cambium for modern replacements, but havent gone there yet. The Prologo is showing wear (in only 5 years), so it may go first. I get why the leather saddles are so pricey, not sure why the Cambiums cost so much. My first Brooks B17 lasted over 50 years, till it split in half during a 10 mile unexpected rain ride.

A guy in my club rides a new Roubaix, Di2, disc brakes, all the mod cons. First change he made was to a new B17. His modern Trek Emonde has one too.
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Old 02-08-19, 10:27 PM
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I like the breathability of leather. I wish I could get a Specialized Phenom made with leather. I’d take three to start.


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Really like my Brooks B17, that is after the 300 mile or so break in.

Another saddle not mentioned so far is a Gilles Barthoud leather saddle. I have one but haven't put it on a bike yet. It has thicker leather than my Brooks so will probably have a bit longer break in period. Also it has a polymer (plastic) rear frame which Berthoud says is a plus due to being a bit more flexible and therefore a bit more comfortable but with all the durability of steel. That's the hype anyway but I don't know if any of that is true or not. The rails are stainless and a bit longer than the Brooks so you have more room to mount the saddle front to back on the post. No rivets but uses star type screws in their place. Also those screws are located at the rear of the saddle and not where you sit. From appearances anyway, it is a quality saddle.
https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/84-stainless-steel-rails
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I prefer my old Idéale saddles (or rhm-rebuilt versions thereof) over the Brooks options. Once broken in I find them comfortable, but not as comfortable as my Terry saddles.
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Leather saddles aren't for everyone. If you are a rider who slides all the way forward or back you may well find that sitting on leather stretched over steel isn't very comfortable. I do both. I rode a high end Japanese leather saddle on a good ride 35 years ago. When that bike got stolen. it was sad, but it meant I no longer had to "ride the rivet" literally.

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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
it was sad, but it meant I no longer had to "ride the rivet" literally.
The extent to which a saddle has a rivet is inversely proportional to how good it is for being on the rivet.
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Another saddle not mentioned so far is a Gilles Berthoud leather saddle.
Well, except for in post no. 9!

I ride on a couple of Selle Anatomicas (no cut out) and a couple of Persons saddles. I've ridden Brooks in the past and had a Gyes on a bike that was given to my cycling nephew. Liked 'em all. The Persons No. 77 Deluxe saddle is a huge bargain for USA consumers. For my latest bike build I wanted a Lepper or Tabor, but couldn't find a US agent and shipping a single saddle was ouch.
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I am waiting on delivery of a new Selle Anatomica R2 saddle. I'm anxious to see if the waterproof rubber version is as comfortable and feels as good as my leather H1.
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Brooks Cambium has Competition in the marketplace wonder is it a non stretch rubber.. SA are well known for the leather stretching.. after riding on them a while..
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Well, except for in post no. 9!
Oops, need to retake speed reading 101
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Brooks Cambium has Competition in the marketplace wonder is it a non stretch rubber.. SA are well known for the leather stretching.. after riding on them a while..
Apparently, they do stretch. They come with an adjusting bolt same as the leather versions.
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Yea the leather ones stretch a lot,
One of my friends has one , he needed a new set of holes punched , and nose rivets replaced, after a couple years ...

because he ran out of adjusting bolt ... and so had to shorten the leather..




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Have a Brooks Team Pro, I bought in the 70's its still OK, I took it* off because My touring bike is parked in the unheated basement and so gets a bit of mildew ..

*its kept inside...



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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
No after Selle Royale Bought out Brooks , they introduced a lot of different leather colors , and made them quite fashionable ..


look at the abundant back threads on them on this site alone, and you can see , it worked well..

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I have a Team Professional I got in the 70's ... the Ford model T analogy 'any color you want, as long as it's Black'...




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I'm not sure which big saddle companies want a piece of Brooks (other than the Italian one that bought them), but several companies have developed and are marketing different visions of what great leather saddles are, most notably Selle AnAtomica, Giles Berthoud and Rivet.
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