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Old 01-06-19, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wingless
The Molton Wax web site shows this information on YBN Ni-PTFE low-friction chain coatings that may be of-interest to the OP.
Yes - thank you.

I’m curious about this coating.

I’m also curious about the use of 11 speed chains on 10 speed cassette drivetrains. I guess they are stronger & therefore last longer?
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Originally Posted by masi61


Yes - thank you.

I’m curious about this coating.

I’m also curious about the use of 11 speed chains on 10 speed cassette drivetrains. I guess they are stronger & therefore last longer?


I tried that briefly, for weight-weenie benefit.

It never got off the repair stand as the chain would tend to spin freely between the chainrings. YMMV.

Perhaps I could have tweaked the FD to make it work, but aborted the mission.



Oh, and on another note, PTFE is not good environmentally, as the extremely fine particles are persistent & accumulate, including in the body.

https://greensciencepolicy.org/highly...ted-chemicals/

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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Oh, and on another note, PTFE is not good environmentally, as the extremely fine particles are persistent & accumulate, including in the body.

Highly Fluorinated Chemicals | Green Science Policy Institute
From your link, the only reference to PTFE: "Avoid cosmetics with PTFE or any word containing “perfluor” or “polyfluor” on their ingredients list."

The concern about PTFE in cosmetics is different than usage of PTFE at the contact points in chain.
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Originally Posted by wingless
From your link, the only reference to PTFE: "Avoid cosmetics with PTFE or any word containing “perfluor” or “polyfluor” on their ingredients list."

The concern about PTFE in cosmetics is different than usage of PTFE at the contact points in chain.


The whole article is in reference to PTFE. The basic idea is that the carbon/flourine bond is so strong that the material never breaks down

and persists in the environment forever. The end result is the same whether it starts out as frying pan lining, water repellent coating on your jacket,

solid anti-friction blocks, or Tri-flow.

I've met the woman who founded the linked organization. She started in college researching fire-******ant chemicals in children's pajamas.
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I gave up on waxing in '93. I now use an ultra sonic cleaner and chainsaw bar oil. I can't think of a worse environment for a chain than cutting wood. So bar oil is probably overkill.
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I gave up on waxing in '93. I now use an ultra sonic cleaner and chainsaw bar oil. I can't think of a worse environment for a chain than cutting wood. So bar oil is probably overkill.

What about concrete?


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New one on me.
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