Do these frames make me look fat (heavy?)
09-03-20, 10:11 AM
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Do these frames make me look fat (heavy?)
More details later, but disassembled 5 of my 6 bikes, and the frames going to the powder coater. Hmm, while I have them here, I broke out our new digital kitchen scale and weighed them. I’ve really not thought much about frame weight before, but do these seem heavy… or light?
(Note: all are 24” ST C-to-T, except the Falcon which is 23”, and all include a fork but no headset)
1. 1974 Zeus track, I wish I knew what tubing, and the fork is a Tange: 6LB 2.66oz
2. 1961 Gitane, I was TOLD 46 years ago it was 531 straight gauge tubes w/Durifort forks and stays, but I cannot prove that: 7LB 7.30oz
3. 1958 Drysdale, 531 throughout: 5LB 15.63oz
4. 1974 Falcon, no tubing decal but forged dropouts: 6LB 10.42oz
5. 1980 Palo Alto, Columbus tubing: 6LB 0.05oz
Mostly curious, even if these are all boat anchors they are the bikes I’ve owned for between 23 and 46 years; they are “my bikes” and I am resurrecting them, finally.
(Note: all are 24” ST C-to-T, except the Falcon which is 23”, and all include a fork but no headset)
1. 1974 Zeus track, I wish I knew what tubing, and the fork is a Tange: 6LB 2.66oz
2. 1961 Gitane, I was TOLD 46 years ago it was 531 straight gauge tubes w/Durifort forks and stays, but I cannot prove that: 7LB 7.30oz
3. 1958 Drysdale, 531 throughout: 5LB 15.63oz
4. 1974 Falcon, no tubing decal but forged dropouts: 6LB 10.42oz
5. 1980 Palo Alto, Columbus tubing: 6LB 0.05oz
Mostly curious, even if these are all boat anchors they are the bikes I’ve owned for between 23 and 46 years; they are “my bikes” and I am resurrecting them, finally.
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Can't wait to see them! An extra few pounds for a 200lb rider+bike+gear is like an extra few lbs on your SO - doesn't matter...at...all
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56cm CtC Serotta frame+fork (completely stripped) is 6 pounds even.
Columbus SLX tubeset throughout. Seems kind of heavy to me.........
So by today's standards, they are bricks!
Columbus SLX tubeset throughout. Seems kind of heavy to me.........
So by today's standards, they are bricks!
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only wearing mtn bke shorts make you look fat 
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Good (frame/fork/headset) lugged frameset weights for bikes in the 25" / 63.5cm CTT range (Prestige, SL, SLX, 531, etc....but mostly Prestige) is 3,000g or 6 lb 9 oz. Knock the headset out and it's around 6 lb 5 oz. I'd say that your bikes in the low 6 lb range are of light weight, relative to their lugged brethren.
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I'll post photos of each, I think I'll run five different topics; I'll need to ask for ideas on some parts sourcing, etc.
Or so I thought,
I did think the Palo Alto, the baby of the bunch, felt featherweight when I picked it up w/out components.
Well, I'll avoid those then !
That gives me a decent baseline, thanks. The Gitane stands out as really heavy, which is interesting as I have memories of it being a lively ride. How much weight do the ornate lugs add? 
Gotta go, I am putting paint stripper on the Palo Alto's frame & forks, I suspect the forks are chrome all the way up (and I could leave them all chrome) and far more chrome on the stays than is currently showing. Hmm, a few more grams?
Or so I thought,
I did think the Palo Alto, the baby of the bunch, felt featherweight when I picked it up w/out components.Well, I'll avoid those then !
Good (frame/fork/headset) lugged frameset weights for bikes in the 25" / 63.5cm CTT range (Prestige, SL, SLX, 531, etc....but mostly Prestige) is 3,000g or 6 lb 9 oz. Knock the headset out and it's around 6 lb 5 oz. I'd say that your bikes in the low 6 lb range are of light weight, relative to their lugged brethren.
Gotta go, I am putting paint stripper on the Palo Alto's frame & forks, I suspect the forks are chrome all the way up (and I could leave them all chrome) and far more chrome on the stays than is currently showing. Hmm, a few more grams?
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Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1974 Legnano. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1974 Legnano. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
