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So It's Come To This?!

Old 10-09-20, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
A non-proprietary road bike for $12,500.00. Who are they trying to kid?

https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...alized-aethos/

Except for the weight, I don't see anything too fantastic about it at all. Couldn't the 18 pound version cost about $2,500?

I'm sorry. I really like road bikes - and I like them simple and non-proprietary, just like this - but this price is ridiculous.
I'm with you 100%.
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Old 10-09-20, 02:08 PM
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I think it's a neat bike, and a good space for Specialized to showcase/market towards the more subjective aspects that make people want to get out and ride bikes. It'd be interesting to see this design approach applied to something like an Allez sprint disc.
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Old 10-09-20, 02:49 PM
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That is definitely "no go" for me, based on prohibitive price.
But just think about: if you had 50000 USD (or more) revenue per month, or millions dollars in the bank, wouldn't you be tempted to play with that toy?
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Old 10-09-20, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbullet
But just think about: if you had 50000 USD (or more) revenue per month, or millions dollars in the bank, wouldn't you be tempted to play with that toy?
No.
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Old 10-09-20, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I dont see anything about it being tricycle specific either.
This isnt a gravel bike.
Sorry, I was using the marketing buzz phrase partly in jest. I thought it was humorous, but not everyone gets my humor. The part that was not in jest was the obvious deficiency (if you think it is a deficiency, that is) that the bike is a "paved road only" bike. I think of gravel bikes as being "all road", meaning that if it looks vaguely like a road, a gravel bike can handle it. That is a point not important to some riders. If I offended you, I apologise.
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Old 10-09-20, 03:44 PM
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I'm not their audience for this, but it's nice to know it exists, just like Lamborghinis and Bentleys.
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Old 10-09-20, 04:00 PM
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“Riding doesn’t have to be defined by racing,” says Specialized Road and Gravel Project Leader, Stewart Thompson.
It's refreshing to get away from the racing mindset and focus solely on spending money.
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Old 10-09-20, 04:16 PM
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The descriptor “user friendly” is the part I don’t get,. Like, this bike is easier to understand than other road bikes?
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morris
Except for the weight, I don't see anything too fantastic about it at all. Couldn't the 18 pound version cost about $2,500?.
Pretty hard to get under $2,500 with Dura-Ace Di2 disc, carbon Roval wheels, and a power meter.
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Old 10-09-20, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Branko D
For me funniest thing is that they have turned not being willing to pay the production costs of doing pressfit correctly (because if they did, it would never cause issues) into a marketing advantage for frames which alone cost like 4-5K.
If done correctly, it doesn't cause issues? How is that a plus over BSA? If you're going to go through the trouble of creating a standard, there ought to be an advantage somewhere, right?

Instead, you get all of the issues that come about as a result of it not being correctly, you get horrendous bearings that wear out in 5 minutes, and you get all the pain and frustration of having to sort out the now 14 different crank options, none of which will then fit your next bike that isn't PF30 (because it sucks and you'd never want it again!).

It's madness!
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Old 10-09-20, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
If done correctly, it doesn't cause issues? How is that a plus over BSA?
I think the Great Hambini said there's slop inherent in threaded BBs that press fit won't have if done correctly.
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Old 10-09-20, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR
My bike is far from a weight weenie. I could easily get lighter wheels and if you remove the pedals, cages and Garmin mount and it will easily drop below 14#.


Be satisfied that you have an entry level bike, and realize that there is no need for a professional level setup with your current fitness level. Keep training! We believe in you!!!!!!!!!!


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Old 10-09-20, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat
Be satisfied that you have an entry level bike, and realize that there is no need for a professional level setup with your current fitness level. Keep training! We believe in you!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks but that was 10 years ago when i was 30lbs heavier and riding my son's old Trek MTB.
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Old 10-10-20, 03:45 AM
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It'll look fine on the yacht for rides between the marina and coffee shop. I hope it includes an exotic hardwood case lined with felted virgin Rhine maiden hair.
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote
Lol, when I was a kid of about 15 I came into a bit of money from a relative. I wanted a really nice sound system. Went to one of the better audiophile level stores in the area and lucked up on a clerk who was on her way out the door. She hooked me up with a GREAT set of JBL monitors, and a really nice Carver amp "off the floor" for less than half of retail. She showed me a couple of other components to "go find elsewhere", so I ended up with an NAD preamp and a few other choice components. It served me well for a long time. The drawback to that being that I have never desired to pony up that manner of money for a sound system again, and nothing I have owned since has held a candle to the sound quality or realism.

I feel the same way about my bikes to a large degree in that, once I rode the really awesome Spec Roubaix my wife got for me, nothing else I have rides that well.
Good stuff.
My first nice setup 35 years ago was built around a Carver amp
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Originally Posted by tyrion
I think the Great Hambini said there's slop inherent in threaded BBs that press fit won't have if done correctly.
Yet the threaded BB threads into the frame, performing as expected with nary a creak, a spacer, an adaptor, or an issue. Glorious.
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its a Rapha bike!
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Originally Posted by downhillmaster
Good stuff.
My first nice setup 35 years ago was built around a Carver amp
Audio Research, Thorens, Vandersteen and Janis in 1976.. .cost more than my new VW.


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So It's Come To This?!


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Originally Posted by woodcraft
And for $500, a little round non-race inspired handle bar bag.
Someone explain to me these?
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Old 10-10-20, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
Someone explain to me these?

It's here, if you care to wade through...

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...ep-seeing.html
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Old 10-10-20, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Yet the threaded BB threads into the frame, performing as expected with nary a creak, a spacer, an adaptor, or an issue. Glorious.
I don't plan on getting press fit BB, just pointing out there are engineering arguments for them.
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Old 10-10-20, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferrouscious
its a Rapha bike!
My thought exactly. The bike is $6k, the other 6 is it isn't matte black and no logos.

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Originally Posted by Kimmo
Then why stick with the UCI-mandated double diamond, when better ideas were around twenty years ago?

For twelve and a half k US, I'd want pretty much the best money can buy, minus that 0.2% another ten k would get you. You listening, Zipp? It's 4001 time.
I disagree better ideas are out there. Different ideas sure, but better is a stretch.

The chain driven bicycle is one of the few inventions that was nearly perfect from the beginning, yet we have believed we were buying substantial improvements every few years.


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