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Old 08-27-19, 02:28 PM
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Mystery Sturmey-Archer Hub

I "parted out" a Sturmey-Archer AW 3-speed rear hub (36 holes) from a 1974 Raleigh Sports "Gents". I rebuilt it completely (Great fun!) and it's in tip top shape. What's odd is that there is no date stamp on the hub shell. How rare is that? Does this make it more valuable, less valuable, more desirable, less desirable, or a throw away? They certainly aren't going for much on eBay.
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Well, it's possible that the date stamp didn't take very well. Alternatively, it's from the year the AW was introduced, 1936, I believe, and they didn't stamp the date that year. But how it found its way on to a '74 Sports is mysterious.

I had an early 70s Hercules with an SA-AW hub. The month stamped was 13!
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Well, it's possible that the date stamp didn't take very well. Alternatively, it's from the year the AW was introduced, 1936, I believe, and they didn't stamp the date that year. But how it found its way on to a '74 Sports is mysterious.
Agreed. It doesn't seem likely that a 1930s hub would end up on a 70s bike.

A rough idea might be found looking at the hub shell. Around 1973, Sturmey-Archer changed from a smooth hub shell to a ribbed shell (on the right, below). If the OP's hub is ribbed, it's 1973 or later production.

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I have a c.1970 DL-1 with no date stamp on the AW hub shell. No trace of one.
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Screw it

A no date 1933-4 SA hub has a screw on sprocket freewheel. Any post WW2 hub has a circlip fastened sprocket on the freewheel.
The value difference between the two is about 20 bucks so don't sweat it!
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Originally Posted by Johno59
A no date 1933-4 SA hub has a screw on sprocket freewheel. Any post WW2 hub has a circlip fastened sprocket on the freewheel.
Assuming that the threaded driver hadn't been replaced with the splined driver at some point in the past, anyway. Given the difficulty changing sprokets with the threaded driver, I suspect many of them have been replaced.

Another difference is that hubs older than the early 1950s will have a threaded-on left side ball cup with wrench flats, while newer hubs will have the left side ball cup permanently attached to the hub shell.
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Originally Posted by Johno59
A no date 1933-4 SA hub has a screw on sprocket freewheel. Any post WW2 hub has a circlip fastened sprocket on the freewheel.
No, that change was made in the early 50's, like 1953 or something.

But whatever the details, there were a number of changes over the years as mentioned above, such as the move to a plastic oil port, for example.
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