LucasET

Hi there! I've been away from forums for awhile... because life.
But, I'm considering the purchase of either a Canyon Aeroad or a Madone to replace a Cervelo S5 that was stolen about 2 years ago. I currently have a Domane SL6 Disc that's been great for living in downtown Chicago, but I miss the speed of an aero bike. The new S5 is simply too spendy by the time I'd click in.
Does anyone have a recommendation or story to tell about their experience with the 2019's?
I'm curious if anyone around 100Kg (or slightly over) has an aeroad, despite the seat tube having a supposed limit of 100Kg? The Madone has an 'all-in' limit of about 125Kg, so no worries there. However, the Madone is considerably heavier than the Aeroad, and I also admire the simplicity/purpose of the Canyon. I'd be sacrificing di2 with the Trek, but that's ok.
The stock of my size is dwindling, so I want to make a purchase asap.
Any input is greatly appreciated!

MyTi

Bleh you won’t gain much with an aero bike

LucasET

Having already owned an S5, I can assure you, you're wrong. Over the same 40 mile ride, I would generally average 1.5-2mph faster than my older model Madone... just over 20mph on the S5, and about 18 on the Madone.

colnago62

Define much

MyTi

A 2mph just from a bike swap? It's not the aero frame that is some how magically giving you a 2mph advantage. It's probably putting your body into a more aero position. Are you using the same wheels on the Madone? More aero wheels...more aero body position is where a big speed gain can from. A more aero frame...that's like hardly any gain at all...and probably no gain at all outside of a wind tunnel scenario.

bruce19

MyTi

0.2mph faster on the aero bike according to that vid.

which is probably due to the aero wheels. Put the aero wheels on the lightweight bike and they perform the same

RoadManFive

Your position on the two bikes probably isn't the same - e.g., the seat/bar height differential or something similar. If you could dial in exactly the same position on both bikes, the average speed differential wouldn't be much at all.

Seattle Forrest

Aero wheels are such a crock. Don't let them fool you. All these lemmings who race might think physics is real, but you and I know better than that.

LucasET

So, before my thread gets highjacked by a couple people who think they know what the hell they're talking about, but clearly don't own either of the bikes I've mentioned, could we please steer back towards the original post? I don't particularly care about someone else's opinion of aero vs light weight, unless it has to do with the new Madone or Aeroad.
Obviously the geometry, wheels, gearing, and yes, aerodynamics are different. That's the whole point.

RoadManFive

The so-called hijackers think that you have missed the point and that you can get nearly the same speed with any of these bikes if they are fit so you are in the same position. So if you don't believe us, just buy the bike you like best and hammer away.

GailT

No, you missed the point. Read the original post again. Are you over 100kg and and have you had any issues with the weight limit on the seat tube? I understand that you want to argue about the benefits of aero, but that was obviously not the question. Only six posts and already so much attitude.

LucasET

Why would I expect to have the same riding position on a 'touring' bike vs one set up for racing? Other than seat height, I would want nothing to be the same.

LucasET

Thank you!

OhioJTrek

Nothing to add besides.. I currently have a 2019 Domane.. and I'm already thinking about Aeroroad vs Madone for my next bike..

colnago62

Does Canyon have a return policy? You will know right away if that frame will have an issue with your weight when you ride it. Years ago, friend of mine (6 ft 5 inch cat 1 match sprinter) had an ultra light to titanium frame given to him. He built it up and took it out for a ride. The first time he tried to sprint on it, he nearly crashed the bike was so flexible. The frame when being pushed to their physical limits will flex all over the place.

Dan333SP

A local racer here is just over 100kg and has an aeroad, he’s had no issues with the seatpost afaik.

shelbyfv

Six posts by that newest user name....

Sy Reene

Only linking as maybe another option, because it's a pretty decent sale price, in your price range, but not sure it's your size.

Orbea Orca Aero

WhyFi

Again, keep your trolling to your own threads - impressionable folks that don't know any better might think that you know something.

mantis

I’ve got an Aeroad SL 8.0, but I’m lighter than 100kg. My thoughts would be to follow the manufacturers recommendations on weight limits. A possibility for the limit may be the top tube “cam wedge” seat post clamp the Aeroad uses.

LucasET

I went with the Madone. I didn't get any response from Canyon with a few questions I had, and I've read that their customer service is lacking. The lbs I ordered through has some great promos for accessories (and a fitting), so it essentially will come to the same price as the Canyon.

As it is, the only changes I might make are to get some Boyd Cycling wheels (55mm) and possibly change to a 52-36 front (more for cadence than having taller gears).
Cheers!

LucasET

That was definitely part of my thinking... my S5 had the same wedge, and it only stayed put after I wiped away nearly all the assembly gel. I might also have been a bit lighter then.

LucasET

I considered the Orbea as well as a Ridley Noah Aero+. That IS a great price!
In the end, the transaction with Trek (not mention the bike is awesome) is just smoother and feels like it'll be an overall better experience.

Seattle Forrest

Sorry to hear about your S5. I hope the thief got a lot of money, spent it on drugs, and overdosed.