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Old 12-03-06, 02:10 PM
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With winter (finally) here I'm going to be inside on the bike. As it stands now, I ride LeMond spinning bikes at the gym four or five days a week, and that's enough to keep me in shape, but obviously isn't ideal for next season. So I want to buy a trainer.

I've heard people rave about Kinetic trainers, but I've also seen a centrifugal trainer by Blackburn (I think it's called the TrakStand Ultra) that claims to have more realistic movement than fluid or mag trainers. Also, would I do better to get a trainer or a set of rollers? Rollers are cheaper, but I was curious about the benefits in form (with rollers) over resistance training, etc.

Thanks everybody.
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I have both a trainer and rollers. If I could only have one it would be rollers, although a trainer does have some advantages (better at sprint and high intensity workouts, pedaling while standing). I prefer rollers because I can get more than enough resistance while maintaining my form. I ride them more too. My fitness level has been maintained more this year compared to others where I have just used the trainer.

Many good choices, but you'll likely have to spend at least $200 for a trainer and $125 or so for rollers (if buying new) to get a quality unit that will last for more than one season. I have the 1 up trainer and the cycleops rollers with resistance, and recommend them both highly.

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I like my trainer, and I've thought that rollers can eat tires more quickly (at least my dad's ancient rollers did). I like being able to tune out and not having to worry about balancing. Plus, I like that trainers are easier for high intensity workouts, because when you're inside, you're less inclined to want to stay on the thing for a really long time. I've got a CycleOps fluid trainer, and it works fine for me. I haven't tried the Blackburn one. There's some resistance added by the trainer versus rollers, but that's adjustible and helps when you are doing those high power things menioned by conundrumx.

What do you think of the LeMond spinners? I just changed gyms to one that uses those. I'm not a big fan of them, particularly the geometry and the fact that it seems too easy to 'outspin' the flywheel unless you REALLY crank up the resistance to the point where it's probably not good for your joints. (And I'm not *that* strong.). I don't think we're using the newest model.
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I have the tacx flow ergotrainer and bought the I-magic upgrade kit. I 100% recommend this type of system. I know there are others out there like the axiom by performance or nashbar. It keeps your interest soooo much more than just getting on a trainer and riding to music. You can race against computer oponents or previous rides that you did. I actually look forward to getting on the trainer these days. I've been riding it 60 to 90 minutes everyday. Last winter after 30 minutes I couldn't wait to get off. It's definately more money that just a regular trainer, but feel that it's worth every penny!
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Do a search of the old posts, there are a bunch of trainers
out there, you just need to find one that suits you.
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I use a Cycle-Ops fluid trainer and it's fine. (Very dull.) My question is this: I'm using it with an old road bike, and find that the drop handlebars are not ideal (for me) for sitting on the bike and looking at the DVD player. I'd much rather be more upright. Any suggestions, more than raising the handlebars--which I've done. Is there any kind of attachment to put on the bars to get me more vertical?
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Originally Posted by cuffydog
I use a Cycle-Ops fluid trainer and it's fine. (Very dull.) My question is this: I'm using it with an old road bike, and find that the drop handlebars are not ideal (for me) for sitting on the bike and looking at the DVD player. I'd much rather be more upright. Any suggestions, more than raising the handlebars--which I've done. Is there any kind of attachment to put on the bars to get me more vertical?
Remember that your rear wheel is elevated, so you have to elevate the front wheel to get your bike level. Not sure if you're doing this already based on your post...

Pick up the climbing riser blocks--You can stack them, and go anywhere from flat to, well, as high as you want.

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Originally Posted by DrPete
Remember that your rear wheel is elevated, so you have to elevate the front wheel to get your bike level. Not sure if you're doing this already based on your post...

Pick up the climbing riser blocks--You can stack them, and go anywhere from flat to, well, as high as you want.

This may sound like a dumb question but does raising the front wheel higher change the load/effort to spin on a trainer?
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Rollers. I got some a month or so ago, and I love them. I think I would shoot myself within an hour of riding on a trainer. You can always add a resistance unit to your rollers. If you want to do high-intensity intervals, though, a trainer might be neccesary.
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???
use one of these:

(when i was in college i used text books.)
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I'm using a front wheel rest already that seems to raise the wheel a bit and also stabilizes it, but I'll try putting a phone book under that! Thanks
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Originally Posted by oilman_15106
This may sound like a dumb question but does raising the front wheel higher change the load/effort to spin on a trainer?
No, not at all, but you can shift to a higher gear and simulate a climb fairly well.
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Originally Posted by 3MTA3
???
use one of these:

(when i was in college i used text books.)
Sounds like a better use of those $100 paperweights. Sure beats painting each page with a fluorescent neon marker.
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I recently purchased a Blackburn Ultra. I love it, absolutely silent, excellent simulation of road riding!
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Originally Posted by 3MTA3
???
use one of these:

(when i was in college i used text books.)

A holdover from my undergraduate days. Can definitely say that I enjoy that book now more than ever.

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I agree. I just started using the Ultra and it has the most realistic road feel of any trainer I have tried. I also have a Cyclops Fluid2 trainer but I think the Blackburn is my preferred choice. I also use rollers so I have about anything I want for winter riding.

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