Crewchief911

I have a 911S Targa. I would shoot myself before I'd buy a bike the color the Porsche was when I bought it (too good a deal to pass up, color be da**ed). Not sure what Porsche called it, but my Porsche buddies call it dogsh** brown, lol. My Cannondale SR400 is the same blue as the one in the top photo. I bought it a few years ago for about $200 I think. Hardly used, new tires, the guy bought it, decided it was too big for him, and it sat in his garage for years, until his wife said get rid of it.

rccardr 

Ha! I had a 'babys@@t' brown 356 back in the late 50's, the one with the light alloy doors and such. Not a great daily driver (constant flat tires, leaked in the rain, slider windows, no view outbthe back at all), but man did it handle compared with the 55 Chevy that I shared with Dad beforehand.

xiaoman1 

Crewchief911,
I think the color that you are referring to is "Sepia"....not bad in my opinion. We currently have a 1971 Orange 911E Targa and an 83 SC in Chiffon White. My orange-red fade Dale is close to the Targa have not seen a white Dale similar in color to the 83.
Happy Autocross!
Best Ben

speedevil 

Just finished up the ST600 build. Still tweaking the bars, stem, and brake lever placement. Once that's done I'll wrap the bars and it will really be done. Oh, wait. Not really. @gugie is modifying a VO front rack to fit this bike, so I can use an Acorn bag on the front. THEN it will be done. Oh, wait...

I decided to stay with the original 3x6 drivetrain for now. The brakes are dual-pivot Tektro R539s with TRP RRL levers. Great braking and feel too. A significant improvement over stock. Replacement headset and BB were required. 700c Sun CR18 rims, DT spokes, Compass 35mm tires.

Here are some photos as of now, will be updated as needed:

flying_rhino

Very nice! I never would have thought of that cable color; it is an excellent accent. BTW, routing the brake cables on the underside of the bar will be much more hand-friendly after bars are wrapped.

speedevil 

Thanks. I will get the cable routing touched up once the stem/handlebars/levers are positioned. I thought the purple cables would add a nice touch of color to the black and silver. The bar tape will be purple lizardskins tape. I'm looking for a replacement stem, the handlebars are 25.4 and the stem is 26, and my shim isn't working very well. I'll find a replacement, and then finalize the positions. Then wrap the bars and good to go.

From a couple of short rides, the ST rides very well. It doesn't seem overly stiff, and the Compass tires may play a part. Might need to tweak the saddle position too, maybe a cm or two back. The Selle Anatomica is very comfortable right from the start.

fasthair

What a nice pile it is too. We own a couple of the same bikes. The Black Lighting looks really nice and that Black an Blue R is really cool too.

fasthair

himespau 

Nice, for some reason, I thought that ST600's had canti brakes. Did that start at ST800?

speedevil 

I think the 1989 ST800 and ST1000 did have canti brakes but couldn't say going forward.

The dual-pivot Tektros are a substantial improvement over the stock Gran Compe calipers. And they work fine with the tires I wanted to use, so in the words of the Emperor "it is of no concern".

Vcycleta

This is great encouragement. 😍

stardognine

This made me curious as heck, so I had to go look at the catalogs again. 😉
That's an '89 ST600 alright, in black, but no, they did NOT use cantilever brakes. Nor did a lot of the ST frames, it seems. The numbering on the STs also changed a lot, during the '80s, so one has to look closely. The first year, '84, included one bicycle, the ST500, and one frameset, the ST300. After that, it gets trickier as you progress through the years. 🤔😁

stardognine

I think the vintage Cannondale site ought to draw up a graph, showing which frames had cantis, for each year. 🤔
My '91 ST600 has them as well, but obviously (now), not all ST600s did.
I'll definitely look closer, to see what other models did. I know nothing yet, about ST700 or ST800, or other oddballs. 🤔

stardognine

OK, the 1986 catalog shows the TOTL ST800 as the first Cannondale Touring bike with cantilever brakes. For that year, they called the ST800 and ST500 simply Touring bikes, though the 500 had regular caliper brakes.
That was also the first year of the ST400, which was called a Sport Touring bike, also with calipers.
EDIT: For 1987, everything was the same, except they renamed the ST500, to ST600. It still used road calipers.
EDIT: For 1988, the only changes were to the model numbers. The ST800 became the ST1000, and the ST600 became the ST700. For awhile, anyways. 😉
EDIT: For 1989, the ST700 reverted to it's old name, ST600, still using road calipers. All else unchanged.
EDIT: OK, now it gets interesting. For 1990, ALL three touring models came with cantilever brakes, even the "lowly" ST400. 😁 I wasn't aware of that.
EDIT: For 1991, they dropped the ST400 altogether. The ST1000 and ST600 appear to use the same frame, just using different colored paint.
EDIT: In 1992, they changed the names to T1000 and T600. I'm not particularly interested in those ones, myself, so feel free to look for yourselves, if you are. 🙂
BTW, any changes besides model numbers, and availability of cantis, have been ignored. Especially components, we all know those changed often. The only purpose of this little exercise, was to ID touring bikes with cantis. Please forgive any errors. 😉

Miele Man

I thought this was a Summit made bike but someone on these forums said it's a 1980s era Cannondale. I've converted it to a drop bar with brake lever body mounted shifters.

Cheers
https://www.flickr.com/photos/738325...7669609219192/

50voltphantom

I've always been perplexed by the inclusion of what appears to be a rear cable stop on these frames yet I've never seen one with centerpull or cantilever brakes, side pull calipers only. I wonder what the intent was?

rccardr 

That doubled as a rear rack mount. Some years the highest level touring frames had cantilevers but all touring models used the same frames.

speedevil 

It has tapped holes on the side for mounting a rear rack.

I've not see centerpull brakes either, but folks here have a lot more knowledge than I, so I will defer to them on this point.

javalemcgoat8

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Is this a SR800? It has Shimano 105 components. Worth $200?

cannonride15

Cannondale no doubt, but late 80's to 90's by the seatstay dropout treatment; not sure what year they went with that. Interesting brake lever & shifter design, not commercial I assume? Not familiar with Summit as a bike brand, just looks like someone went wild with automotive racing stickers!

Miele Man

The shifters are regular downtube shifters mounted to the protruding post of the suicide brake lever that used to be on each brake lever body.

Cheers

letenn 

Early model 3.0 1989 blueberry spec'd from 1988 as a SR500. I've upgraded her to a full Shimano 8 spd tricolor group. The pic was taken on the Sun Valley Parkway in west Buckeye Arizona.

bradtx

letenn, My '89 is also built with mostly 8S 600 since the mid '90s. Simply delivers on every ride, mostly used to rail turns these days.

Brad

Lazyass

I need a measurement if anyone can get it. This 2.8 frame is a 56cm. I'm trying to find out what the full seat tube length is to the top?

spedrunr

'87 SR600 48cm in Blueberry....pretty much stock

mobilemail

I love that color! My wife has a vintage 'Dale MTB she picked up at a swap meet over the winter. I might try to talk her out of it and do the restoration. :-)

Every time I look at the big chainrings and tiny sprockets on those bikes, I can only think about how strong we must have been in the '80s!!