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Old 10-23-19, 12:09 PM
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Looking for a picture of Newbaum’s burgundy tape/clear shellac.

Anyone? I just wrapped bars with burgundy tape and I am on the fence about shellac. I only have amber on hand and did a sample - way too dark and too brown. Checked online and didn’t find much in the way of images. TIA.
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Google “rivbike newbaum” and you’ll find the pictures that Rivendell created of maroon and other colors treated with clear and amber shellac.
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Bet the burgundy would look great with clear. I recently wrapped bars with the khaki and gave em three coats of clear. The original shade of color was mostly retained as I’d had hoped. The only significant change I saw was a darkening of tone with each coat of shellac.
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Try here:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/newbaums-bar-tape
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I used their bright red tape with 3 coates of amber shellac and got close to burgundy. Another coat and it would have been closer to burgundy but I wanted more red. I think you'd like the results.

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Thanks. I did see that, but between the small sample and the scrawled sharpie outline, well, I was hoping for a picture of a full wrap job. From what I can tell, though, it looks promising.
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Well its not burgundy but for comparison this is what Newbaums Maroon looks like -no shellac. It came closest to playing off the decals of the 1985 Trek 420

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Newbaum's burgundy/maroon tape with clear shellac? Here ya go.




It doesn't look as 'wet' with use over time, but recharges with subsequent applications of shellac.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
Newbaum's burgundy/maroon tape with clear shellac? Here ya go.




It doesn't look as 'wet' with use over time, but recharges with subsequent applications of shellac.
Thanks for posting. While it looks terrific on your bike, I think I am going raw this time.
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Newbaum Tape Colors

The colors in some of the photos above are a little misleading. Digital photos are not always accurate.

Here's a photo of Newbaum's Maroon tape that's close to the real color:



This is their Eggplant color tape:



Back in the 70's all the people at our shop tried shellaced tape - at least once. Within a short period of time we all took it off of our bikes - the hard rough surface felt this coarse sandpaper!

BTW it was a bi-otch to get off!

IMLTHO, unless you live in Britland or somewhere else where it rains all the time, shellacing bar tape is an anachronistic Fred throwback, like wool knickers!

Now that I've offended some and spoke out for others...

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Originally Posted by due ruote
Thanks for posting. While it looks terrific on your bike, I think I am going raw this time.
Couple of years back I went with raw burgundy Newbaums on a Schwinn varsity repainted sea foam green. Color scheme looked great, similar to the celeste Bianchi posted above ^

Anyhow, I loved the feel of the raw tape, and though it got a bit dingy over time, it didn’t bother me too much as it would have with a lighter colored tape.

I would only recommend, and you may already be planning to, but do run the tape up from the bar ends towards the stem. Without a shellac coating the tape edges will certainly get pushed up and curl back if wrapped from the other direction.
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Originally Posted by deux jambes
Couple of years back I went with raw burgundy Newbaums on a Schwinn varsity repainted sea foam green. Color scheme looked great, similar to the celeste Bianchi posted above ^

Anyhow, I loved the feel of the raw tape, and though it got a bit dingy over time, it didn’t bother me too much as it would have with a lighter colored tape.

I would only recommend, and you may already be planning to, but do run the tape up from the bar ends towards the stem. Without a shellac coating the tape edges will certainly get pushed up and curl back if wrapped from the other direction.
Verktyg’s Bianchi is similar to the color scheme I have and why I don’t want to lose the burgundy.
I prefer the feel of raw cloth tape anyway, and find that to lose the rough feeling Verktyg described, I have had to go to a gloss level I don’t care for. OTOH, after riding a while, it tends to mellow in, and the longevity is way better with shellac. Pros and cons.
Anyway, I did wrap top down in spite of the concern you mentioned. I have done it both ways and have not found it to be a problem, especially with Newbaum’s, which has pretty aggressive adhesive.
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Originally Posted by verktyg
BTW it was a bi-otch to get off!
Soak the bars with ethanol, or soften it up with isopropanol, and it'll make things much easier. The carrier solvent in shellac is ethanol. Acetone should work too..but it may eat paint..
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Originally Posted by verktyg
...IMLTHO, unless you live in Britland or somewhere else where it rains all the time, shellacing bar tape is an anachronistic Fred throwback, like wool knickers!
I'm normally a fan of Fred throwback, and have considered putting shellaced cloth tape on a bike or two, but when it comes to actually wrapping the bars I end up going with modern tape.
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I used their bright red tape with 3 coates of amber shellac and got close to burgundy. Another coat and it would have been closer to burgundy but I wanted more red. I think you'd like the results.
Love those bar ends. Could we see the rest of the bike?
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I can find a picture of Newbomb Turk's Pie Wagon, but it's orange not purple.
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For those of you who want to wrap bottom to top to reduce curling, but don't want to use unsightly electrical tape to finish, I've had good success using one or two extra wraps of the cotton tape at the top, and super-gluing the end of the tape to the previous wrap.
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Originally Posted by verktyg
Back in the 70's all the people at our shop tried shellaced tape - at least once. Within a short period of time we all took it off of our bikes - the hard rough surface felt this coarse sandpaper!
You guys didn't put on enough layers. It can be made like coarse sandpaper (1-2 coats) or smooth as glass (10 or more?) I go for somewhere in between

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BTW it was a bi-otch to get off!
That's like complaining that powder coat is hard to remove - I call that a feature! I used to do an annual retape. With shellaced cloth tape, it's one and done. Everything else breaks down after awhile. It's the most durable finish you can make on a set of handlebars. If it gets scuffed, a quick touchup and it's good as new.

I mean, some people may not like durability...


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IMLTHO, unless you live in Britland or somewhere else where it rains all the time, shellacing bar tape is an anachronistic Fred throwback, like wool knickers!
You say Britland, I say Portland...
Rode into work wearing my wool Ibex knickers this morning, it was 40 degrees when I left. Nice and warm, real comfy...

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Now that I've offended some and spoke out for others...

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Don't forget to twine the tops!

BTW, most people who see my bars ask me where I got the leather tape. I can match just about any leather saddle with the right combo of cloth color and shellac for a fraction of the cost of leather.

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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
For those of you who want to wrap bottom to top to reduce curling, but don't want to use unsightly electrical tape to finish, I've had good success using one or two extra wraps of the cotton tape at the top, and super-gluing the end of the tape to the previous wrap.
Everything I've tried, including the super glue method eventually comes undone.

Except twine and shellac.

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I can find a picture of Newbomb Turk's Pie Wagon, but it's orange not purple.
Laaaaawrence....Lawrence of Arabia meep meep.

Lol.
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Originally Posted by TugaDude
Love those bar ends. Could we see the rest of the bike?
The handlebars and stem are GB so I thought I'd use the GB bar end plugs too. Not sure if they're meant as GB or as Great Britain, but either way, they work. The bike is an unknown brand.
Using the Newbaums bright red tape with amber shellac gave it a nice blood red look. A few more coats and it would have been burgundy.

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Originally Posted by gugie
Everything I've tried, including the super glue method eventually comes undone.

Except twine and shellac.
Ever try tire glue? I have had good luck with that.
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Just a few coats of clear shellac. I didn't want to overdo it.
The Newbaums tape was applied damp, from the top down.
When dried it was super tight.
And is still super tight today.
The bikes former owner, and the designer of the frame, had previously scoffed at the use of shellac on bar tape. I needed to have a subtle effect to pass his scrutiny. It did.
I used shellac to improve the lifespan of the cloth tape.
It now looks like this after many rides

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Originally Posted by Big Block

Just a few coats of clear shellac. I didn't want to overdo it.
The Newbaums tape was applied damp, from the top down.
When dried it was super tight.
And is still super tight today.
Now that I like. You have maintained the burgundy color very well. Did you use premixed shellac or flakes?
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Originally Posted by due ruote
Now that I like. You have maintained the burgundy color very well. Did you use premixed shellac or flakes?
Mine came as a granulated powder, which I mixed.

My opening words in the bike build thread are appropriate to this discussion...
https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/v...p?f=23&t=88324
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