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Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
04-14-24, 10:38 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 954
Posted By wrk101

Bicycle Blue Book does not use data to support,...

Bicycle Blue Book does not use data to support, it's just a formula. Most bikes come up low, really low. Look at sold Trek 520s on ebay, then discount it for local only sale.


Regardless, seller...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-29-24, 01:08 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 553
Posted By wrk101

Me too. And if it has been sitting for as long as...

Me too. And if it has been sitting for as long as you think, it will need complete refurbish, not just a tune up. The Marathons I have owned and seen had zero collector interest.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-28-24, 11:18 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 681
Posted By wrk101

Whatever the value, if it were my dad's bike, I'd...

Whatever the value, if it were my dad's bike, I'd be keeping it. Once its gone, it's gone. Will not have a ton of value in today's market.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-28-24, 11:08 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 671
Posted By wrk101

If someone gave me that bike for free, I'd take...

If someone gave me that bike for free, I'd take it straight to the co-op and donate it. Bottom of the barrel, basically a BSO (bike shaped object). I could not recoup the value of any consumables,...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-26-24, 07:03 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 2,285
Posted By wrk101

$1500? You’ll have these for a long, long time. A...

$1500? You’ll have these for a long, long time. A lot of them are what I call donation fodder. Not worth the time and effort to sell. With this pile, the 90/10 rule applies. 10% of the pile has 90%...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
03-26-24, 06:21 PM
Replies: 301
Views: 13,926
Posted By wrk101

Ive been doing a lot more of this. On new...

Ive been doing a lot more of this. On new opportunistic buys, it has to have a destination or part out, or i wont buy. As you develop an eye for the good stuff, you will find it. I just saw a mid...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-22-24, 10:21 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,461
Posted By wrk101

Vintage bikes are heading down right now, could...

Vintage bikes are heading down right now, could start heading up tomorrow. Who knows? If you are looking for an investment, IMO, bikes or any other collectible are not the way to go. Collectibles in...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-19-24, 05:42 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 427
Posted By wrk101

It's a 1983 model, made by Panasonic, hence the...

It's a 1983 model, made by Panasonic, hence the Panasonic serial number on the head tube: "3E" = May 1983.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-12-24, 08:18 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 431
Posted By wrk101

IME, buying frames to build up only works out...

IME, buying frames to build up only works out financially if you have the time/tools/aptitude/pile of parts in hand. Otherwise, you will be so upside down $$ wise.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-08-24, 09:49 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,771
Posted By wrk101

There are pages after pages on such builds on a...

There are pages after pages on such builds on a thread I started years ago. There are a lot of stem options, some have a substantial angled rise. I can't stress top tube length enough. Various models...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-08-24, 12:45 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 394
Posted By wrk101

In my area this is a $50 bike max. Maybe I need...

In my area this is a $50 bike max. Maybe I need to take some to Phoenix. As far as Continentals, Schwinn made millions of them.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-04-24, 08:30 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 656
Posted By wrk101

Clueless seller with ridiculous price. My...

Clueless seller with ridiculous price. My experience is I cannot talk him to reality, so I move on.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-04-24, 08:12 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 520
Posted By wrk101

Just be prepared to sell on eBay to get FMV. I've...

Just be prepared to sell on eBay to get FMV. I've bought these in local markets for a small fraction of their ebay sales prices. All of the Sports I have seen were a step down from the Stumpy, but...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-03-24, 12:19 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 726
Posted By wrk101

Value depends on your location and your ability...

Value depends on your location and your ability to market. All original often means has not been maintained in 40 years. I buy "all original" bikes all the time. Anything with bearings: wheel hubs,...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
01-26-24, 07:19 PM
Replies: 15,458
Views: 4,082,529
Posted By wrk101

Picked up a 1987 Diamondback Apex. Nothing...

Picked up a 1987 Diamondback Apex. Nothing special model wise, but came with some nice parts, most notably the nearly NOS Suntour XC II pedals. And I am a sucker for thumb shifters.

In my town, I...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
01-26-24, 09:23 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 393
Posted By wrk101

At $40 no brainer, assume you are just buying...

At $40 no brainer, assume you are just buying parts. If they end up being better than that, great.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
01-26-24, 09:04 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,012
Posted By wrk101

Exage Sport is not one of the more desirable...

Exage Sport is not one of the more desirable groups, plus rust, plus needs a complete refresh. In my area, $50. If I spent 4 to 6 hours of time and $50 to $75 in consumables, I might get $100 for it...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
09-14-23, 11:40 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 543
Posted By wrk101

Unknown Model Witcomb, Made in England Full 531

So I picked this up as just a frame and a fork. It has Campy dropouts, and a very distinctive wraparound seat stay design. I do not know, not my area of knowledge for sure.


...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
08-16-23, 11:27 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 557
Posted By wrk101

Getting the most net = sell as is, via the online...

Getting the most net = sell as is, via the online channel of your choice. People who collect stuff prefer original with patina (wear) versus refreshed. Add the cost of refreshing, and the return goes...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
07-08-23, 02:23 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,003
Posted By wrk101

Low end bike with low end parts. Nutted rear axle...

Low end bike with low end parts. Nutted rear axle and stem shifters. Steel seat post, I'm guessing steel handlebars. Old tires. Nice tires sell bikes.

In many bikes, the word "Sport" in the model...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-16-23, 08:20 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,326
Posted By wrk101

I'm usually the lowest value person here, but...

I'm usually the lowest value person here, but this time, I'm higher than anything mentioned so far. And if it were my father's bike, I'd have it proudly displayed as is, hanging on the wall.

If I...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-14-23, 03:53 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,481
Posted By wrk101

Where I live in North Carolina, I can't give away...

Where I live in North Carolina, I can't give away Raleigh 3 speeds (OK, technically I can give them away, as I donated the last one to the co op). We have a lot of hills here in Western Carolina, and...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-11-23, 11:07 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,449
Posted By wrk101

Yes, this is the main reason I have stopped doing...

Yes, this is the main reason I have stopped doing it. Can't compete with the as is crowd that often state their bikes are ride ready when they are not. I now do it for family/friends, or to donate....
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-11-23, 07:08 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 870
Posted By wrk101

I would NOT sandblast and paint. That is a lot of...

I would NOT sandblast and paint. That is a lot of work, and lowers the value. I'd put the effort into refurbishing the parts that are there, and enjoy the ride.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-10-23, 06:57 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,008
Posted By wrk101

Depends where in Canada. Many of the big cities...

Depends where in Canada. Many of the big cities have really high prices. In Toronto, that is probably cheap.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
06-05-23, 09:34 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 745
Posted By wrk101

As a bare minimum, anything with grease will need...

As a bare minimum, anything with grease will need service, brake pads need replaced as well as tires.

Asking prices by others are meaningless. Its what bikes have sold for in the past,

One...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
05-30-23, 12:00 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 539
Posted By wrk101

CRAZY Suntour Steer Tube Quick Release

OK, I don't know what to call this, but it holds a quill stem in place, without the usual wedge and bolt.

Came off an early Sekine. Note the longer than usual steer tube, and the T shaped slot...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-24-23, 06:50 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 607
Posted By wrk101

Ditto. In my market, after putting 4 to 6 hours...

Ditto. In my market, after putting 4 to 6 hours into it, and another $75 in consumables, I might get $150 for it, $175 tops. I am seeing some really nice stuff right now under $100.

Prices of...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-24-23, 04:58 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 515
Posted By wrk101

I find so many bikes with low miles. Low miles...

I find so many bikes with low miles. Low miles don't really matter. It's how the bike was stored in the interim. Neglect can do a lot of damage. And a bike that is never ridden can suffer.

By the...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
05-15-23, 06:22 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 730
Posted By wrk101

I would say never. A quality repaint is quite...

I would say never. A quality repaint is quite expensive and then the bike is not original. A Prologue would have a Panasonic serial number on the head tube. I don't see one. A crappy paint deducts...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
05-11-23, 07:13 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 2,581
Posted By wrk101

I always start with disassembly. Then I inspect...

I always start with disassembly. Then I inspect everything. I then do any rust treatment and then start the assembly process.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Sales
05-11-23, 12:48 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 902
Posted By wrk101

Come-n-get-em Free Special

I would like to pass these two on, no interest in packing, and priced to move. FREE.

First up is a Soma Competition, pretty nice frameset. Tange Champion 2 tubing, very nice long point lug work....
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-10-23, 06:32 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 618
Posted By wrk101

High ten steel frame bikes do not go anywhere...

High ten steel frame bikes do not go anywhere near $400. Very attractive bike, ride it and enjoy it!
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-10-23, 06:11 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 896
Posted By wrk101

In my market, you can do better. Cables are...

In my market, you can do better. Cables are rusty, thats a sign this bike will need some maintenance, not just what local shops here call a tune up. Tires look old too. Lower end components. I'm...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-07-23, 10:09 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 707
Posted By wrk101

Define "major". My basic rule is "if what I can...

Define "major". My basic rule is "if what I can see shows obvious neglect, then what I can't see will be worse." Projects to make a profit depend on your ability to do all the work, your...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-07-23, 06:24 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 621
Posted By wrk101

On your Superbe, I'd talk to the guy you bought...

On your Superbe, I'd talk to the guy you bought the other bike from who fixes up 3 speeds. If you can talk him into it, he will be able to fix the Superbe at a lower cost AND do a better job of it!...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
05-05-23, 09:07 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 621
Posted By wrk101

As far as dismounting goes, there is no rule that...

As far as dismounting goes, there is no rule that the bike needs to be perpendicular with the ground. It's OK to lean to one side or the other.

I rode motorcycles for decades. All of my bikes had...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
04-30-23, 06:04 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 2,062
Posted By wrk101

Early Stumpys can be had in the $400 to $600...

Early Stumpys can be had in the $400 to $600 range, and I would put them higher than your Miyata. Production volume does not matter. It's all about what people want.

The example I use is the Ford...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
04-28-23, 03:18 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 624
Posted By wrk101

I would not sell as is because it is a project....

I would not sell as is because it is a project. Most buyers want bikes ready to ride. A bike in as found condition will likely go as a project, at a steep discount.

You decide but I see rusty...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
04-10-23, 09:24 AM
Replies: 164
Views: 7,187
Posted By wrk101

Most of my riding is in the recreational/exercise...

Most of my riding is in the recreational/exercise category. As such, top speed and performance is less important, but easy gearing is.

Speaking about vintage value, I had a first printing Atlas...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
04-08-23, 10:19 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,025
Posted By wrk101

The Supra Sport is nothing special, is going to...

The Supra Sport is nothing special, is going to need a thorough refresh. $50 max in my market. The Crests is better. I paid $80 for the last one I got, but its a $250 to $275 bike in an average...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
04-02-23, 12:26 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 3,570
Posted By wrk101

Back in the day, catalogs were sent out to...

Back in the day, catalogs were sent out to printers months before actual bike production. So changes were made afterwards. I never consider catalogs as the final statement on what was made.
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-11-23, 10:33 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 904
Posted By wrk101

Answered on another one of your postings, but...

Answered on another one of your postings, but basically, very few vintage bikes are worth paying a shop to refurbish the bike. Even if you start with a free bike, it's VERY easy to get way upside...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-11-23, 10:27 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,300
Posted By wrk101

Bring a 5mm and 6 mm Allen wrenches with you....

Bring a 5mm and 6 mm Allen wrenches with you. Make sure that the stem and seat post are NOT stuck. Ask me how I know.....

It's been for sale for a long time, so bring cash and negotiate (if it...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-09-23, 02:58 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 624
Posted By wrk101

Described as "Like New" "Ready to Ride" and then...

Described as "Like New" "Ready to Ride" and then later says "No returns" is a red flag for me, particularly for someone selling multiple bikes. And the mix of incompatible stuff is concerning too.
...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
03-09-23, 02:39 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,475
Posted By wrk101

It's one of those examples where the vintage MTB...

It's one of those examples where the vintage MTB parts exceed the value of the completed project. I had one in similar condition to the above that I bought for $50. Needed chain, tires, saddle,...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
02-24-23, 12:09 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 927
Posted By wrk101

The only thing Miyata made on your bike was the...

The only thing Miyata made on your bike was the frame and fork. Everything else came from the same suppliers that sold to all the other brands in the world. Lever hoods are the only part that is hard...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
02-22-23, 09:44 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 2,221
Posted By wrk101

I have come to prefer "patina". Picked up a...

I have come to prefer "patina". Picked up a Frejus in similar condition. Treated the rust, cleaned it up and called it good. I just like bikes that show their age.

This will be a fun project!
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
02-21-23, 09:41 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 687
Posted By wrk101

Wonderful job here, well done! I would dig out a...

Wonderful job here, well done! I would dig out a clean HS top nut from your bin or a nearby co op, that is the only flaw I see.

In my market, touring bikes have taken a sharp turn DOWN, so selling...
Forum: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
02-17-23, 06:27 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,128
Posted By wrk101

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