Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21429491)

I was thinking Mike McCarthy, but he speaks well.

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21429366)

Early shock. Take it seriously if you ever see it again.

Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21429377)

So did I. I would stop for a rest and light one up. :eek:
Sometimes when I really wanted to look cool around the girls, I'd be riding and smoking at the same time. :eek: :crash:

Originally Posted by big john (Post 21429559)

The coach?

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21429560)

Early shock. What does that mean? I was several hours into the process at that point, and had two doctors with me. They wouldn't recognize it? Maybe I was in shock over having a hole drilled lengthwise through my finger and a ss wire inserted. I was awake for that part, except when I fell asleep naturally. Is shock something that delays that long?

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21429574)

In your case the shivering have been related to some anesthetic they gave you, but shock can occur anytime. If you were shaking uncontrollably, they should have noticed and been concerned, but surgeons are famous for clinical tunnel vision and probably wanted to git 'er done.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21429590)

Thanks. It's always a pleasure to talk to experts in their field. Especially when that field is medicine.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 21429399)

Nothing looks cooler.

Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21429573)

C.A.R.B guy.

Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21429259)

I'm trying to be the bigger man about the driver. While I was lying in the street she asked me several times what I was doing in the middle of the street. I was on the "bike path" it crosses where it is crossed by a street. She turned onto it and got me. I realize she was in shock etc. It was still not easy to stop my mouth from giving her what for.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 21429674)

We were in the parking lot outside of the store last week and the security guard at the door told a customer to take his bags back to the car, he wouldn't be allowed into the store with them.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21429651)

Took a walk to my friendly neighborhood baker to pick up some bread for tonight. While I was there, I went next door to my friendly neighborhood grocer to pick up four things. As I was concluding my transaction at the self-checkout, I was admonished by one of the supervisors. "For future reference, you can't bring your reusable bag in here."
"I can't bring my bag in here?"
"Yeah, we've temporarily suspended the use of reusable bags."
"I'm in the self-checkout. I wouldn't ask any of your employees to touch my bag. I never took it off of my shoulder, never set it down and didn't even fill it until after I was done scanning and paying."
That was met with a blank stare before she referenced a printout and stammered, "well, you can bring it in, but you can't use it?"

:rolleyes:

Am I wrong? I'm all for precautions, but having an idea of why we're doing what we're doing would be nice. It's like those people that wear gloves and still touch their faces.

Originally Posted by sfrider (Post 21429675)

tftfy

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21428735)

Warning: Editorial....it's possibly P&R but so local I think it's acceptable....

Regarding the COVID19 issue, between me and an INDIVIDUAL patient who is sick, the need for testing is questionable. The current tests take a couple days to schedule and then 3 days for results, so by the time the results are back the patient is better and it almost does not matter.

HOWEVER, when we look at our POPULATION the need to ramp up testing is very important. We need to be able to test to screen asymptomatic carriers. This should be set up by the public health departments. My local (Chester County, PA) health department has been effing useless in this regard. They are not testing ANYONE. They tell us to have our patients tested at the local hospital. The local hospital has very limited resources and are focusing on testing sick patients in the emergency department or in the hospital primarily, and secondarily testing possible incoming patients for surgery etc.

So unless the PUBLIC HEALTH system steps up and creates a scalable drive-up or walk-in testing option, I am very pessimistic about the situation. And terribly disappointed in my state and local health departments.

Sad!

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21428745)

You have earned your peace.

I and many of the old-enough-to-know better athletes in my acquaintance have obsessive-compulsive/addictive personalities and need to ratchet up the training (pain) to get the same dose of anxiety reduction. We are also competitive perfectionists (jerks) and need to be faster than someone.

Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 21429803)

The interesting thing is most people assume that because I race (or used to race, even I’m not sure of my status these days) my bike that I care about being faster than other people. I really don’t. I just want to do whatever I do well. For me, the other person is more of a yardstick as to where I am in that process. Winning is nice but doing well as I possibly can, including in preparation, is better.

Its nuance but I don’t even 100% understand direct head to head competitiveness.

Originally Posted by berner (Post 21429806)

So the federal stimulus and retirement moneys arrived at my bank at about the same time and suddenly I feel rich. This must be what it feels like to be Jeff Bezos. Sit around screwing around with the computer, ride my bike now and then and the money rolls in.

Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21429076)

How people can just throw others under the bus for profits is just repulsive to me.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21429651)

Am I wrong? I'm all for precautions, but having an idea of why we're doing what we're doing would be nice. It's like those people that wear gloves and still touch their faces.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21429375)

I never heard it until medical school. I have since heard it occasionally. I think it's a snooty physician affectation that I reckon is inspired by the French pronunciation of centimeter. I studied Physics in a previous life and NEVER heard anyone, even the top PhD's in the field, say it that way.

Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 21429850)

Thats been the hard part for me, and the attitude if you don’t put profits first you’re somehow stupid or naive or “fearful”.

Originally Posted by berner (Post 21429894)

Over the last few years I've become a fan of the Quaker Friends Overseas Service. First, some time ago I learned Quakers were instrumental during the 1800s in England in freeing slaves in the West Indies. Then, after reading several books by a Quaker woman named Lady Borton, who worked for the Quaker Overseas Service, and who did much work to help Vietnames boat people in Asia who were robbed, beat and *****, back in those terrible times, only increased my regard. Furthermore, when Japanese Americans were held in confinement during WWII, Quakers sent them Gifts at Christmas. To this day Japanese Americans lend financial support to Quaker charities. I also very much like that Quakers are not in the business of fund raising. You don't see their glossie ads for donations. What they undertake is mostly with their own money. They truly live according to their beliefs.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21429414)

A few years ago, a 60+ mile ride used to mean that I'd need to wolf down some food and lounge the rest of the day. At this point, I can pretty much carry on as usual after rides like that. Even after 100 miles, I can usually function somewhat normally, though I might shy away from anything involving a lot of walking, like going to the zoo or the botanic garden, etc.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21429857)

I'm going to attempt swapping a quill stem before my wife gets home.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21429946)

Got it!