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BFisher 12-18-21 11:24 AM

^^That blue Peugeot does not look like a PX10.^^

joesch 12-18-21 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by BFisher (Post 22344150)
^^That blue Peugeot does not look like a PX10.^^

I was told it was a PX10.
What model do you think it is ?

BFisher 12-18-21 12:02 PM

Lugs with Aztec windows, long chainstays, chrome socks, steel wheels - point to UO8 in my experience.

joesch 12-18-21 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by BFisher (Post 22344177)
Lugs with Aztec windows, long chainstays, chrome socks, steel wheels - point to UO8 in my experience.

Ok guess I need to find out more about the UO8 models. Wonder why the seller claimed it was a PX10 ? Maybe they are worth more ? I did not know the diff so good to find out more about this era Peugeot models. Are they from the same era like early 70s ? Thanks for the education.

BFisher 12-18-21 12:18 PM

That one looks early 70s.

Unfortunately lots of sellers try to pass off any old Pug as a PX bike. The UO8 is regular old steel, not Reynolds 531. They ride nice, but are not a racing bike.

joesch 12-18-21 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by BFisher (Post 22344190)
That one looks early 70s.

Unfortunately lots of sellers try to pass off any old Pug as a PX bike. The UO8 is regular old steel, not Reynolds 531. They ride nice, but are not a racing bike.

Im use to nice light steel like Columbus and Reynolds so with the steel wheels I may not find the UO8 ride that nice. My PX10 bubble got burst :)

jonwvara 12-18-21 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by joesch (Post 22344264)
My PX10 bubble got burst :)

Fortunately, if you do want a real PX-10, they are not especially hard to find. There are lots of them sitting out there in barns and garages, and they appear on the market regularly. Peugeot made and exported huge numbers of bikes in the early 70s. I've heard that about 4 trillion PX-10s came into the US between 1970 and 1975.

ehcoplex 12-18-21 04:58 PM

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So satisfying the way old alloy polishes up. Anxiously awaiting the proper crank puller so I can get the bling going on it...

ehcoplex 12-19-21 08:59 AM

As I get deeper into the, er… meditative flow of dismantling, cleaning, scraping, polishing, greasing, reassembling, etc, etc, thoughts on what I want to do with this bike are clarifying and simplifying. Much as I desire a steel, all-road, go anywhere-do anything bike, why spend money I don’t need to spend or try to make this PX-10 into something it wasn’t/isn’t particularly intended for? So, no 650b or 26” wheels as I’d been previously considering. It will limit usefulness somewhat, with the very crappy roads where I live, and because many of my regular routes include at least some gravel/seasonal road stretches, but that’s OK. My old Cannondale touring bike is pretty much ‘go-almost-anywhere’, so the PX-10 will be for more ‘considered’ routes. If I can manage to fit some supple 700x32c tires on it with fenders I think/hope I’ll be comfortable enough for shorter/faster/better road/going-in-vintage-style rides. So I’m leaning toward keeping it more-or-less 'original,’ at least in spirit. Only replace what I really have to and/or upgrade if I get a good deal on a component. Still, I need some 700c wheels…. I just know there are hundreds of perfectly suitable, more-or-less period-correct sets of old 700c 120mm hi-flange wheel sets mouldering away in garages, old-school bike shops or co-ops that might be had for cheap…. Unfortunately there are no old-school shops or co-ops anywhere near me…. so I may end up resorting to eBay, etc. At least we’re rapidly moving into snow season, so getting it on the road isn’t a huge rush now.

BertoBerg 12-19-21 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by jonwvara (Post 22344334)
I've heard that about 4 trillion PX-10s came into the US between 1970 and 1975.

I heard it was 6 trillion! :)

I think sticking with 700c is a great idea.

jonwvara 12-19-21 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by BertoBerg (Post 22344885)
I heard it was 6 trillion! :)

I think sticking with 700c is a great idea.

Yeah, 6 trillion sounds better. I second the idea of sticking with 700c wheels. I ride a lot of gravel on my PX-10 with 28mm tires, and enjoy the ride.

BertoBerg 12-19-21 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by jonwvara (Post 22344895)
Yeah, 6 trillion sounds better. I second the idea of sticking with 700c wheels. I ride a lot of gravel on my PX-10 with 28mm tires, and enjoy the ride.

I have also done some trails on 32s. As long as you’re not getting into anything chunky you’ll be fine.

ehcoplex 12-19-21 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by jonwvara (Post 22344895)
Yeah, 6 trillion sounds better. I second the idea of sticking with 700c wheels. I ride a lot of gravel on my PX-10 with 28mm tires, and enjoy the ride.


Originally Posted by BertoBerg (Post 22344902)
I have also done some trails on 32s. As long as you’re not getting into anything chunky you’ll be fine.

Ha, well.... I'm old-ish, with joints showing the wear-and-tear of time- I need as much cushioning as I can get! I have discovered that for a given tire size, the higher quality/more supple makes a really big difference (and running lower psi..)- of course that means $$. I kind of hate that I like the ride of Rene Herse tires so much.

jonwvara 12-19-21 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 22344972)
Ha, well.... I'm old-ish, with joints showing the wear-and-tear of time- I need as much cushioning as I can get! I have discovered that for a given tire size, the higher quality/more supple makes a really big difference (and running lower psi..)- of course that means $$. I kind of hate that I like the ride of Rene Herse tires so much.

C'mon, this is C&V--the younger among us are oldish--the rest of us are just plain old.

Uncharacteristically for me, cheapskate that I am, my PX-10 has a set of those Herse tires, and they do give a very nice ride.

BertoBerg 12-19-21 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 22344972)
Ha, well.... I'm old-ish, with joints showing the wear-and-tear of time- I need as much cushioning as I can get! I have discovered that for a given tire size, the higher quality/more supple makes a really big difference (and running lower psi..)- of course that means $$. I kind of hate that I like the ride of Rene Herse tires so much.

You should try some Grand Bois. Comparable ride to an RH tire for about $20-$30 less per tire.

ehcoplex 12-19-21 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by jonwvara (Post 22344998)
C'mon, this is C&V--the younger among us are oldish--the rest of us are just plain old.

Uncharacteristically for me, cheapskate that I am, my PX-10 has a set of those Herse tires, and they do give a very nice ride.

It's not all retro-chic, hipster 20-somethings here?

BertoBerg 12-19-21 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 22345301)
It's not all retro-chic, hipster 20-somethings here?

LOL

I do wonder what the real age demographic is?

Anyway…have fun with the new Peugeot OP!

Bogester 12-19-21 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=BertoBerg;22345319]LOL

I do wonder what the real age demographic is?

Anyway…have fun with the new Peugeot OP![/


59 going on 17.
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Here’s my 72…..I want a blue one. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7248de708.jpeg

ehcoplex 12-20-21 05:26 PM

Huh, the Simplex Prestige RD (which actually seems to be in pretty good shape...) has jockey/pulley wheels with actual ball bearings! I don't think I've ever seen a jockey wheel with actual loose bbs in it!

BertoBerg 12-20-21 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 22346655)
Huh, the Simplex Prestige RD (which actually seems to be in pretty good shape...) has jockey/pulley wheels with actual ball bearings! I don't think I've ever seen a jockey wheel with actual loose bbs in it!

I have never seen that either!

ehcoplex 12-20-21 09:34 PM

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Classtime 12-21-21 03:21 PM

For my PX-10 wheels, I hacked off 4 mm or so of axle off some Shimano 600 hubs, laced them to some Mavic rims and ran 5 speed. The Prestige shifted wonderfully. Measure your rear drop outs as I think mine were 122.

ehcoplex 12-21-21 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 22347676)
For my PX-10 wheels, I hacked off 4 mm or so of axle off some Shimano 600 hubs, laced them to some Mavic rims and ran 5 speed. The Prestige shifted wonderfully. Measure your rear drop outs as I think mine were 122.

Mine measure 120 at rest, but I think I could pull them apart enough to get a 126mm hub in there...

ehcoplex 12-23-21 12:10 PM

Not sure if this 'deserves' a separate thread.....
The BB fixed cup is really on there... been soaking in PB and I can't get it to budge with a large adjustable wrench. It already slipped once scraping the chrome a tiny bit, but (luckily) didn't round off. My cheap Harbor Freight calipers say the size is 38mm, though I can't always trust the tool- can someone confirm the size? Local car shop has a 38mm socket ($30!?..), but there's a bevel to the hex and I don't think it'll have enough/any purchase on the cup flats. Tips, tricks, ideas, source for a socket that would work?
And while we're on the subject.... the spindle & cups look good, but I'm thinking about just sticking a sealed BB in and being done with it (assuming I can get the fixed cup out...). Anyone have experience with the French threaded BBs Velo Orange sells?

Classtime 12-23-21 12:47 PM

Leave it in there. Clean it well and reinstall. If you get it out, you might not get it reinstalled tight enough on the first couple tries.


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