Originally Posted by gpburdell
(Post 22300441)
Yes you can ride on properly patched tube as long as you wish. Some folks will patch and swap tubes so their spare is the unpatched one.
Personally I tend to just replace vs patch since it's all of $9 for a tube of the size I use since I don't get flats often and the cost is all of $9 at REI or LBS. Do put a little air in any brand new tube and leave it overnight to make sure there's no major defects. The reason tubes are only $9 is that, in most countries, neither the manufacturer nor the consumer must pay for most of the environmental damage associated with the goods purchased. The factory can use the limited resources, & discharge polluted air, water, chemicals, etc. without paying for the impacts. The consumer can discard broken or worn-out items in the landfill, without paying for the impacts. Society at large--you and me, both current & future generations--bears the harms of the items' life-cycles. Thus, for the individual consumer, replacing is often cheaper than repairing, although the associated resource depletion & pollution are killing us collectively (already, 19% of deaths worldwide are caused by burning fossil fuels). With that in mind, I try to repair items rather than replacing them. Nearly all my tubes (both on my bikes & in storage) have 5+ patched holes each. |
Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 22299973)
The number and frequency of flats has nothing to do with who makes the tube. Flats are random events and no tube unless it is a heavy thorn resistant tube is going to stop a puncture. Even the thorn resistant tubes aren’t impervious and usually not worth the extra weight.
People have used Scharader to Presta adapters for decades without any harmful side effects. Even the simple Presta to Schrader nut is an effective and safe method for the adaptation. |
Originally Posted by Racing Dan
(Post 22350188)
Flats are not random. They are caused by inadequate tyres. TL and tubes with slime are both the wrong solution.
Sealants may reduce the frequency by sealing the puncture before too much air is lost but they do so at a cost. There’s the added weight of the sealant and the need for regular refreshment of the sealant as well as the added expensive of the conversion. |
You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day flatting, or not flatting, is largely determined by the tyres you are running. Its a very basic concept, but lots refuse to believe it or dance around it with silly semantics. You can keep you race day tyres, flat all the time and keep believing its "random" or you can get a puncture proofed tyre and it all goes away. You decide :-)
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
(Post 22351015)
You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day flatting, or not flatting, is largely determined by the tyres you are running. Its a very basic concept, but lots refuse to believe it or dance around it with silly semantics. You can keep you race day tyres, flat all the time and keep believing its "random" or you can get a puncture proofed tyre and it all goes away. You decide :-)
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Oct. 2019 I drove thru Monument Valley, then stopped for lunch in Kayenta, AZ. Then went out and looked at my tires.
They had about 30 goat thorns. I spent 5 minutes pulling them out. NO flat.... proves THICK tires work. LOL. Still, I wouldn't want that to happen often, all those cuts could add up to wear. My bike was safe on the roof, getting a rusty chain. And the car tires are filled with N2. Goes all year without filling, until winter cold. Plain old air tires used to need pumping every month. And I drill every rim for schraeder, first thing. First one has 28,000 miles, so zero increased risk of rim cracking. I never rode a mile without a valve cap. One of the 2 valves will have an old metal cap, the ones with a core wrench top. Did use this a few times. They certainly are NOT useless in any case. In 2014/5 my bike tour in Vietnam/ China, I went 4,200 miles. Only flat was because I went with a stupid Park's patch on. |
1, Presta valves are older than Schrader, hence the two types.
2. They used to be a special type of removable valve just for bicycles, and they were standard until the 1980s outside of continental europe, until someone in Taiwan said "hey, why don't we just use the valves from car tyres ?" 3 Presta valves can take much higher pressures than car valves, or they used to, like up to 150 psi, when car valves start leaking over about 90 psi, I'm not sure whether that is still the case. 4. Triathlon and velodrome bikes used to have special types of tyres called tubular tyres, which had a sealed tube and tyre that you sewed together and then _glued_ to the rim. The tube was pumped to an insane pressure (up to 200 psi for velodromes) and then sealed permanently with a special type of metal clamp on the pipe inlet - presta valves replaced these. 5 Its becoming increasingly difficult to source european sized tubes (eg 700) with car valves because they are all made for competition bikes, the standard department store bikes are getting absurd massive tyre sizes. |
unrelated? found this at the gas station pump today while topping off Wifey's car tires. I guess someone had a stuck dust cap? did someone vandalize it with super glue?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f59ee983fc.jpg sorry this one is so blurry https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7067433b36.jpg |
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